Meanwhile in Ukraine

[StCapps]

I can only use the intellectual and deductive skills that I have, which say Russia, at least Putin's Russia, is the winner in almost every way. I don't want to try and convince anyone who has an opinion based on different interpretations: I only wonder why?

Frankly, I don't have a dog in this fight: it's simply the natural TDS->Covidian->Ukrainiot timeline with another -> waiting in the wings.

they have lost in almost every way

and just because the media claims they are losing

doesn't mean they are winning

that's just mindless contrarian virtue signalling

reality is not always the opposite of everything the media says

and such thinking is as intellectually lazy as

reality is whatever the media says

that's just picking a team, that has nothing to do with logic or reason, just tribalism

[The Conservative]

how is that a win?

the EU wants to dump their worthless Rubles

obvious sign of weakness is obvious

the Russians are selling far less oil

particularly in Europe

meanwhile Europe is making a beeline to diversifying away from Russian energy

that's called a loss


also the pipelines they move their oil through to Europe

move through Ukraine

so the Ukrainians can shut that off

if they feel like it

this is not what winning looks like


Russia's position on the world stage

is much weaker than it was in January

and that trend is only accelerating

Yet, the EU and the UN are willing to accept Russia's oil, and demands. Seems to counter your argument.

only to the uninformed

who think that is some huge deal

when it's a nothingburger

I know more about what is going on than most, I know people on both sides of the fight, and I have others across the EU... right now, Europe is only giving weapons and other sources to Ukraine to keep Russia busy so Russia doesn't see what is going to happen this summer.

That being said, the UN has accepted that Russia's demands about border countries not going into the UN stands. They have accepted Rubles which are now backed by the gold standard are the currency of oil when it deals with Russia.

Russia has dealt with India and China... they have broken the World Order open for everyone to see that "God does indeed bleed"...

Countries are going to start changing their views soon to "country above all" mentality instead of the "Global View"... They will remove Russia that way, but there are going to be countries such as India and China that will work with Russia, and they are flush with money and clout.

Russia won in more ways that you can obviously see. I have to agree with Martin on this, this is another variant of TDS...

[SuburbanFarmer]

The only reason the dollar is a ‘reserve currency’ is that its been required in order to purchase energy for decades. You want to buy billions worth of oil, you hold billions worth of dollars to do it. To get those dollars, you give your own currency or resources to the US banks who give you dollars.

The US banks can print fiat dollars because there’s always someone willing to buy them.

Now Russia is selling in rubles, and the Chinese are selling in yuan. Hegemony destroyed.

Countries all over Europe and Asia need to hold rubles and yuan now. Not just dollars. Less demand for dollars. Less printing for the Fed without inflation.

Hyper-inflation = collapse. This is the economic apocalypse, unfolding before your eyes.

Russia wanted to break our backs and they’ve done it. There’s no going back now. And all because some imbecilic beaurocrats thought they could sanction a war away.

[StCapps]

The only reason the dollar is a ‘reserve currency’ is that its been required in order to purchase energy for decades. You want to buy billions worth of oil, you hold billions worth of dollars to do it. To get those dollars, you give your own currency or resources to the US banks who give you dollars.

The US banks can print fiat dollars because there’s always someone willing to buy them.

Now Russia is selling in rubles, and the Chinese are selling in yuan. Hegemony destroyed.

Countries all over Europe and Asia need to hold rubles and yuan now. Not just dollars. Less demand for dollars. Less printing for the Fed without inflation.

Hyper-inflation = collapse. This is the economic apocalypse, unfolding before your eyes.

Russia wanted to break our backs and they’ve done it. There’s no going back now. And all because some imbecilic beaurocrats thought they could sanction a war away.

nobody wants rubles or yuan

they want the dollar

not the gold standard lulz

Russia hurt themselves not America

[The Conservative]

The only reason the dollar is a ‘reserve currency’ is that its been required in order to purchase energy for decades. You want to buy billions worth of oil, you hold billions worth of dollars to do it. To get those dollars, you give your own currency or resources to the US banks who give you dollars.

The US banks can print fiat dollars because there’s always someone willing to buy them.

Now Russia is selling in rubles, and the Chinese are selling in yuan. Hegemony destroyed.

Countries all over Europe and Asia need to hold rubles and yuan now. Not just dollars. Less demand for dollars. Less printing for the Fed without inflation.

Hyper-inflation = collapse. This is the economic apocalypse, unfolding before your eyes.

Russia wanted to break our backs and they’ve done it. There’s no going back now. And all because some imbecilic beaurocrats thought they could sanction a war away.

nobody wants rubles or yuan

they want the dollar

Russia hurt themselves not America

I know your avatar is a fox, and they do hide underground in dens... but have you really been that out of touch?

[C-Mag]

they lost in Afghanistan, when they were far more formidable

why can't they lose in a larger and more populous country

We lost in Afghanistan, the British Empire lost in Afghanistan, so that's not much of benchmark.

Russia can lose in Ukraine. My point is, don't you think the declarations of Russia being defeated are as pre-mature as those that said Russia would never take Mariupol a month ago ?

Why should I believe Russia is defeated, when the predictions on Mariupol, an active Ukraine insurgency, and the conquests of the Ghost of Kiev have proven to be wrong.

because the Russians are not performing anywhere near well enough to take Ukraine

let alone hold it

Mariupol Schmariupol

the Russians have taken nothing of significance

and have paid a steep price for it

Not performing well = Defeat ?

I was told a month ago Mariupol was important and would stand. That didn't happen, so now Mariupol is not important.

Nothing of signifigance ? Depends on who you are, the shelling has stopped in the Donbas for the first time in 8 years. For those ethnic Russians, it's damned significant. Plus they now have a land route to Crimea and have restored irrigation water flow to Crimea.

Russians through history don't care about taking steep losses, frankly, that's a Western thing. Most non-Western nations put little value on human life. Russia doesn't care about humans, Ukraine doesn't care about humans.

You say Russia is Defeated, so when will the war end with Russia returning to it's pre-War borders ?

[StCapps]

The only reason the dollar is a ‘reserve currency’ is that its been required in order to purchase energy for decades. You want to buy billions worth of oil, you hold billions worth of dollars to do it. To get those dollars, you give your own currency or resources to the US banks who give you dollars.

The US banks can print fiat dollars because there’s always someone willing to buy them.

Now Russia is selling in rubles, and the Chinese are selling in yuan. Hegemony destroyed.

Countries all over Europe and Asia need to hold rubles and yuan now. Not just dollars. Less demand for dollars. Less printing for the Fed without inflation.

Hyper-inflation = collapse. This is the economic apocalypse, unfolding before your eyes.

Russia wanted to break our backs and they’ve done it. There’s no going back now. And all because some imbecilic beaurocrats thought they could sanction a war away.

nobody wants rubles or yuan

they want the dollar

Russia hurt themselves not America

I know your avatar is a fox, and they do hide underground in dens... but have you really been that out of touch?

the yuan is pegged to the dollar

the ruble is worthless outside of Russia

both manipulate their currencies in ways that deter others from wanting their currency

the dollar is king

[StCapps]

We lost in Afghanistan, the British Empire lost in Afghanistan, so that's not much of benchmark.

Russia can lose in Ukraine. My point is, don't you think the declarations of Russia being defeated are as pre-mature as those that said Russia would never take Mariupol a month ago ?

Why should I believe Russia is defeated, when the predictions on Mariupol, an active Ukraine insurgency, and the conquests of the Ghost of Kiev have proven to be wrong.

because the Russians are not performing anywhere near well enough to take Ukraine

let alone hold it

Mariupol Schmariupol

the Russians have taken nothing of significance

and have paid a steep price for it

Not performing well = Defeat ?

I was told a month ago Mariupol was important and would stand. That didn't happen, so now Mariupol is not important.

Nothing of signifigance ? Depends on who you are, the shelling has stopped in the Donbas for the first time in 8 years. For those ethnic Russians, it's damned significant. Plus they now have a land route to Crimea and have restored irrigation water flow to Crimea.

Russians through history don't care about taking steep losses, frankly, that's a Western thing. Most non-Western nations put little value on human life. Russia doesn't care about humans, Ukraine doesn't care about humans.

You say Russia is Defeated, so when will the war end with Russia returning to it's pre-War borders ?

you can only see America's strategic defeats

but can't see Russia's due to tunnel visioning on tactics

take your America Derangement Syndrome blinders off

if America invaded Ukraine and were doing this poorly

then you'd see it for the obvious clusterfuck strategic defeat that it is

but because Russia is doing it you think it's 4D Chess?

sad

right wing identity politics is a helluva drug

[Martin Hash]

I’ll change my opinion when the facts change.

[The Conservative]

because the Russians are not performing anywhere near well enough to take Ukraine

let alone hold it

Mariupol Schmariupol

the Russians have taken nothing of significance

and have paid a steep price for it

Not performing well = Defeat ?

I was told a month ago Mariupol was important and would stand. That didn't happen, so now Mariupol is not important.

Nothing of signifigance ? Depends on who you are, the shelling has stopped in the Donbas for the first time in 8 years. For those ethnic Russians, it's damned significant. Plus they now have a land route to Crimea and have restored irrigation water flow to Crimea.

Russians through history don't care about taking steep losses, frankly, that's a Western thing. Most non-Western nations put little value on human life. Russia doesn't care about humans, Ukraine doesn't care about humans.

You say Russia is Defeated, so when will the war end with Russia returning to it's pre-War borders ?

you can only see America's strategic defeats

but can't see Russia's due to tunnel visioning on tactics

take your America Derangement Syndrome blinders off

if America invaded Ukraine and were doing this poorly

then you'd see it for the obvious clusterfuck strategic defeat that it is

but because Russia is doing it you think it's 4D Chess?

sad

right wing identity politics is a helluva drug

I see a way to defeat Russia, and this isn't it. And you aren't fighting Russia, also you are fighting the Soviet Union.