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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by clubgop » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:51 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Rogers and the NHL will make money by having the Leafs and Habs play for the two weeks of the Olympics, if they shutdown for the Olympics, they lose money, the math of going to the Olympics doesn't add up, unless the Olympics belly up to the bar with a much better deal.
Yeah but then the IOC would make money instead of losing it because the NHL refuses to show, and that would require some level of competence, which they do not have.
They ain't losing money, stop making stuff up, they ain't losing shit. They print that shit.

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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:52 pm

clubgop wrote:It isn't in there best intreat when they can not pay a bunch of college kids to play for 3/5 the ratings. And as I said they sin't paying anyway, NBC is.
That leaves more money on table than paying the NHL, that's what you don't seem to get.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:53 pm

clubgop wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Rogers and the NHL will make money by having the Leafs and Habs play for the two weeks of the Olympics, if they shutdown for the Olympics, they lose money, the math of going to the Olympics doesn't add up, unless the Olympics belly up to the bar with a much better deal.
Yeah but then the IOC would make money instead of losing it because the NHL refuses to show, and that would require some level of competence, which they do not have.
They ain't losing money, stop making stuff up, they ain't losing shit. They print that shit.
They are making less than they could, for no good reason, in spite of their own best interests, I'm not making that up, the IOC is retarded, you just don't want to believe they are. You think they must have a good reason to say fuck you to the NHL, but they don't. They ain't saving money with this move, they are flushing it down the drain. They are not a well run organization, never underestimate just how poorly run they truly are, I mean, I'm understating the case here, that's how incompetent they are.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Fife » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:55 pm

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Montegriffo wrote:Want to know what winter Olympic sports are talked about the most by each country?
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Most people even in Canada care most about figure skating.

Most watched winter Olympic sport worldwide in 2014? Ski jumping. Ice hockey only second.
This is trash. This does not help matters.

Facebook mentions are not a solid indicator of anything.

It's also of week 1, figure skating is at the heart of its program and handing out medals while the hockey tournament isn't even done with pool play.
Fucking Based Biathalon lights up Europe like a Christmas tree.

Argentines v. Icelanders Curling brawls should be good to boot. (or is that the "bobsleigh" shade of yellow? I can't see Jamaica on that resolution map to compare)
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:56 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Rogers and the NHL will make money by having the Leafs and Habs play for the two weeks of the Olympics, if they shutdown for the Olympics, they lose money, the math of going to the Olympics doesn't add up, unless the Olympics belly up to the bar with a much better deal.
Yeah but then the IOC would make money instead of losing it, and that would require some level of competence, which they do not have.
I'm 100% behind the NHL owners, the Olympics is a scam, they don't pay the freight, there's no reason for the NHL to go, it's actually a big pain in the ass, the Olympics are not going to pull any viewers from the NHL, the NHL doesn't need the Olympics, and if the Olympics are not hockey revenue, then Leafs Nation doesn't need them neither, if you're not pumping up the cap, don't waste our motherfuckin' time, if it doesn't make more room for the Auston Matthews contract, then no Auston Matthews will be playing, and rightly so.

We own Auston Matthews, he can be available for rental, but if you're not paying top dollar, take a lap IOC.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:57 pm

Also the reason Olympic hockey doesn't have the buzz about it, even in Canada, is because it's the Spengler Cup 2.0, if the NHL was going, that map would look a whole lot different.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Rogers and the NHL will make money by having the Leafs and Habs play for the two weeks of the Olympics, if they shutdown for the Olympics, they lose money, the math of going to the Olympics doesn't add up, unless the Olympics belly up to the bar with a much better deal.
Yeah but then the IOC would make money instead of losing it, and that would require some level of competence, which they do not have.
I'm 100% behind the NHL owners, the Olympics is a scam, they don't pay the freight, there's no reason for the NHL to go, it's actually a big pain in the ass, the Olympics are not going to pull any viewers from the NHL, the NHL doesn't need the Olympics, and if the Olympics are not hockey revenue, then Leafs Nation doesn't need them neither, if you're not pumping up the cap, don't waste our motherfuckin' time, if it doesn't make more room for the Auston Matthews contract, then no Auston Matthews will be playing, and rightly so.

We own Auston Matthews, he can be available for rental, but if you're not paying top dollar, take a lap IOC.
Yeah but looking at it with the IOC's interests in mind, the decision on their part makes no rational sense whatsoever. I get the NHL position, I do not get the IOCs, at all. The NHL might not be the best run sporting organization but compared to the IOC, they are a well oiled machine oozing with rationality. The NHL is looking out for their own best interests, The IOC, not so much.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Fife » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Rogers and the NHL will make money by having the Leafs and Habs play for the two weeks of the Olympics, if they shutdown for the Olympics, they lose money, the math of going to the Olympics doesn't add up, unless the Olympics belly up to the bar with a much better deal.
Yeah but then the IOC would make money instead of losing it, and that would require some level of competence, which they do not have.
I'm 100% behind the NHL owners, the Olympics is a scam, they don't pay the freight, there's no reason for the NHL to go, it's actually a big pain in the ass, the Olympics are not going to pull any viewers from the NHL, the NHL doesn't need the Olympics, and if the Olympics are not hockey revenue, then Leafs Nation doesn't need them neither, if you're not pumping up the cap, don't waste our motherfuckin' time, if it doesn't make more room for the Auston Matthews contract, then no Auston Matthews will be playing, and rightly so.

We own Auston Matthews, he can be available for rental, but if you're not paying top dollar, take a lap IOC.
Yep, I'm just curling up on the curvy couch at the Casa de Fife to watch the Preds dismantle the Strong Islanders. (BTW, WTF is up with Forsberg getting 3 games???)

Fuck off, IOC. Take your pleas to the UN, whatever.

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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:03 pm

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:If Rogers and the NHL gave a rats ass about the Olympics, they'd be at the Olympics, nothing says don't give a rats ass about the Olympics, like not even bothering to show up. It's not a money maker for them, it's a money loser, ergo, they don't care.
The IOC should care, yet they don't. They don't even care about their own best interests, it doesn't get any more incompetent than that, stupidest sporting organization ever.
You're not fooling anyone. Both of you will watch every Canada game and probably most of the other games as well. The Olympics isn't going to lose out because players care more about money than playing for their country.
Just like the overpaid spoilt brats in soccer they care more about their teams than their countries. Most of the Athletes there in all the other sports would put the honour of competing for their country above all else.
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Re: Fighting about real sports, hockey, IOC

Post by clubgop » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:03 pm

StCapps wrote:
clubgop wrote:
StCapps wrote:Yeah but then the IOC would make money instead of losing it because the NHL refuses to show, and that would require some level of competence, which they do not have.
They ain't losing money, stop making stuff up, they ain't losing shit. They print that shit.
They are making less than they could, for no good reason, in spite of their own best interests, I'm not making that up, the IOC is retarded, you just don't want to believe they are. You think they must have a good reason to say fuck you to the NHL, but they don't.
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clubgop wrote:No it won't. English, do you speak it. NBC already payed to broadcast the Olympics, what ever igloo channel Canada is already paying the IOC most likely.
They also are less likely to get as good of a TV deal in the future when they play chicken with the NHL as well, the NHL isn't going to cave to the IOC on this, and doing that just puts in doubt whether they'll show up at any future Olympic games. The decision makes no sense financially. You want to believe the IOC is looking out for their own best interests at least, but they aren't even doing that, that is the crazy part, that's how bad of call this is.
I think the IOC is like the EU or the Clintons, a bunch a of sportacrats who makes all the calls and you don't dicatate terms to them unless you want to die. In the long term they are fine. The winter games are the little step child NBC has to take in order to get exclusive access to the summer games. They don't rate in negotiations. You want best on best it has to be IHC or bend over NHL, IOC is coming through.