China, A Communist Nation

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:00 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Within postmodernity, the Neo-Left does not have the courage of their convictions to dispossess us overtly, this is why I use the caveat "pseudo" and/or the shorthand "faux" when invoking their Bolshevistic tendencies, they are aspirational to dispossess us, render all property rights theoretical rather than practical, once again, in the name of an utopian classless post scarcity society under the rubric of saving us from ourselves, in theory, you would own things, but you will have no practical means of enforcing those rights, thus, distinction without a difference, hence, fetch the gasoline, eh wot? Burn them, Billy, burn them all.

At what point shall we stand and deliver, sir? 70% confiscation? 80% confiscation? 90% confiscation? Stand and deliver now, I say, before we are left with nothing but crumbs.
It's an important question isn't it...

Especially when we know the very richest often pay the least in taxes... given their means to avoid those taxes... as The Donald himself demonstrates nicely.

What percent confiscation do you imagine he suffers.... I highly doubt it approaches anything close to the numbers you quote there... and how much would you say he benefits from the commoms payed for by those less fortunate than he.

I imagine he benefits well from the roads and utilities that serve his real estate enterprises.
Well, like the Bolsheviks, this is the bait and switch of the Leftist narrative, they whip the people up against the "Imperialists!", Exxon-Mobile to Donald Trump, but as with the Bolsheviks, those are not the folks who taste the lash of forced confiscation and state repression, it's not Donald Trump who has all his teeth knocked out for dissenting from the World Socialist Revolution, but rather the little guy, same as it ever was, thus, the Leftist cure is worse than the disease, aegrescit mendendo, same as it ever was, hence, to hell with you and the horse you rode in on, Bolshie.

The Lefties can never get at the Multi-Nationals! and Super Rich!, so guess who gets left holding the bag of their aegrescit medendo? That's right, the very same usefull idiots who empowered them in the first place, Donald Trump is beyond their reach, so they take it all out on the common man, as a proxy for their faith based self righteous rage.
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:08 pm

We have seen this shit play out in all it's bloody and horrific detail ever since the French revolution. Is it possible we could actually put an end to this cancer in our lifetime, or is the "left" just like yin (cancer) to civilization's yang (ascendancy)?

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:18 pm

The Leftist will ceaselessly cry "Peace, Bread and Land!", but as per usual, upon being ensconsed in power, it will be your bread and land they will tearing to pieces to parcel off for their aegrescit medendo, stand and deliver now, before you are left with nothing but crumbs at the end of a riot baton.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:56 pm

What I wonder, though, is if we could somehow elicit a cultural shift such that this cancer is replaced by something more productive in place of the "left", what would that substitute look like?

I think when you come to the realization that all the left really is amounts to a cancer with really good public relations, the question then becomes.. what is our civilization supposed to look like if not for this cancer that has afflicted us since the French Revolution? What are the more legitimate sides?

Maybe a kind of traditionalism (monarchy, religion, etc) as opposed to liberalism (in the historical sense of the word, commonly referred to as conservatism in the Americas)?

This is one thing that worries me about Trump. He is a sort of compromise with the left, and I think a lot of people will see that when he replaced Obamacare.

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by DrYouth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:06 pm

Looks like I got the blood boiling...

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

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Speaker to Animals wrote:This is one thing that worries me about Trump. He is a sort of compromise with the left, and I think a lot of people will see that when he replaced Obamacare.
I don't see Donald Trump as being anything more than the de facto American doctrine of "experimenting within the states", in this case, the Blue Wall Rust Belt states, I don't see him in any way as being a revolutionary, he's simply being flight tested by the White Working Class, for his capacity to get things done for them, ideology be damned, as Dukenog says, Pascal's Wager. He lives or dies by his economic plan, nobody cares if its Liberal or Conservative, just getter done, If he doesn't getter done, they'll turn on him quite precipitously no doubt.
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by DrYouth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Smitty is right...

The left do get played...

And the middle class carry the tax burden every time...

I acknowledge that the game is rigged and the left haven't succeeded in unrigging it...

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:45 pm

DrYouth wrote:Looks like I got the blood boiling...

:twisted:

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Building siege engines and fighting wars is hard work. FYI.

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:28 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
DrYouth wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Within postmodernity, the Neo-Left does not have the courage of their convictions to dispossess us overtly, this is why I use the caveat "pseudo" and/or the shorthand "faux" when invoking their Bolshevistic tendencies, they are aspirational to dispossess us, render all property rights theoretical rather than practical, once again, in the name of an utopian classless post scarcity society under the rubric of saving us from ourselves, in theory, you would own things, but you will have no practical means of enforcing those rights, thus, distinction without a difference, hence, fetch the gasoline, eh wot? Burn them, Billy, burn them all.

At what point shall we stand and deliver, sir? 70% confiscation? 80% confiscation? 90% confiscation? Stand and deliver now, I say, before we are left with nothing but crumbs.
It's an important question isn't it...

Especially when we know the very richest often pay the least in taxes... given their means to avoid those taxes... as The Donald himself demonstrates nicely.

What percent confiscation do you imagine he suffers.... I highly doubt it approaches anything close to the numbers you quote there... and how much would you say he benefits from the commoms payed for by those less fortunate than he.

I imagine he benefits well from the roads and utilities that serve his real estate enterprises.
Well, like the Bolsheviks, this is the bait and switch of the Leftist narrative, they whip the people up against the "Imperialists!", Exxon-Mobile to Donald Trump, but as with the Bolsheviks, those are not the folks who taste the lash of forced confiscation and state repression, it's not Donald Trump who has all his teeth knocked out for dissenting from the World Socialist Revolution, but rather the little guy, same as it ever was, thus, the Leftist cure is worse than the disease, aegrescit mendendo, same as it ever was, hence, to hell with you and the horse you rode in on, Bolshie.

The Lefties can never get at the Multi-Nationals! and Super Rich!, so guess who gets left holding the bag of their aegrescit medendo? That's right, the very same usefull idiots who empowered them in the first place, Donald Trump is beyond their reach, so they take it all out on the common man, as a proxy for their faith based self righteous rage.
:angry-soapbox:

All this analysis of the "Lefties" and the "Righties" is a case of "Look, Squirrels!". It allows those with all the money, resources, influence, and just sheer power to use all the useful idiots, AKA the "Lefties" and the "Righties", as a distraction. It's a favorite, and perennial, tactic of those in power.

The leadership of the French Revolution, the Soviet Union, Red China, both sides of the Spanish Civil War, the governments of most Latin American nations, the political establishment of the United States, ad infinitum. The details change, but process of over simplification, the mischaracterizing, the dehumanization of the targeted people that allows for their destruction, if not outright lethal extirpation, and the further increase in power for those already powerful stays the same.

Of course, the corruption of the established political system, the impoverishment of the general population, along with efforts to defeat reforms, and/or the leadership's unwillingness to deal with the situation until it too late allows the rise of the truly evil, or callus, or just ruthless to use such tactics either to force their own solutions on everybody else, or just because they want power. At which time, yes aegrescit medendo.

So let's keep yapping about whether China, an oligarchy, corrupt, one-party, capitalistic, free market, quasi-police state, and empire is a communist country because its ruling political institution still calls itself communist. It says so on the cover. So it must be true. :roll:

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The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:38 pm

Multiple citations needed. Sounds pretty tinfoil.