Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by BjornP » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:11 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:I didn't pretend anybody is a good guy, pal.

If you want to reject what the bishops are pleading (probably because you want them dead as far as I can tell), then that's all on you. Christians are by and large fighting for the Syrian government because the alternative is death at the hands of the Islamists.

I am not the only one who has demonstrated this to you. You just don't care and you go on with this nonsense for some reason that is too silly really to wonder about.

If you want to stop the genocide, then you have to restore the Syrian government. Period. That doesn't mean Assad is a nice guy. It's just the only rational course of action.
The Christians of Syria are fighting for, and against Assad. Now, not so much against, because they're a truce in effect. They're (mostly) not actively fighting Assad atm, but they're still rebels against the regime in the sense that they want Assad gone and a different government system in place. They've been more active against the regime in the earlier stages of the Civil War:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava%E2 ... _relations

You keep talking about some bishops? You have a link to what these bishops, whoever they were, were specifically talking about? You even call them "The" bishops. You don't seem to get that the Christians there aren't for the most part Catholics. The oldest Christian denomination in Syria is the Assyrian Church of the East. They're most closely related to the old Nestorians. And even if those bishops do support Assad, what does that matter? They're not the leaders of the Christians of Syria.

Two simple questions, StA:

1. Do you reject the videos I posted as fake?

2. Do you consider the Syrian Kurds of Rojava fighting against ISIS to be Christian-murdering Islamists?
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:13 am

TRUTH ABOUT 2017 "chemical attack"

Ray McGovern addresses the 2017 Syrian gas attack accusations



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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by BjornP » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:18 am

ssu wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Image
Well, the Arab street has for a long time thought that ISIS is a creation of the US and Israel. Especially the Shiites think so.

Wasn't there this conspiracy theory that the leader of ISIS, the caliph, was an Israeli actor?

Like in one of those Iron Man movies, you know...
America and Jews = The "Russia! Russia! Russia!" of every Eastern despot who needs to shift domestic blame elsewhere. :clap:
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:19 am

Iraqis are now using Taiwanese anti drone jammers. Didn't know such a thing exists tbh.
http://defence-blog.com/news/iraqs-sold ... -iraq.html

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:20 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The people who deliberately created this mess deserve to go on trial in the Hague.
Assad is the main culprit, because he just kicked down so hard, went to the vicious brutal crackdown lever one too many times, so that he set off a Sunni revolt within his own ranks, and then it just burned out of control from there, with all sorts of elements exploiting the breakdown in the Alawite coalition, the coalition is not all Alawite, there's Sunni's in the coalition, but they make up a big part of the army, and when the army split, all heck broke loose.

That's fine. Go after him, Obama, Clinton, and McCain.

But restore the government. This practice of toppling nation states is wrong and hugely destructive.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:21 am

With straight face, #Russia amb asking @OPCW how #WhiteHelmets could have treated sarin victims on Apr 4 without getting sick. #MustBeStaged
https://twitter.com/TimEdwutz/status/852545045924372482

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:22 am

TheReal_ND wrote:Iraqis are now using Taiwanese anti drone jammers. Didn't know such a thing exists tbh.
http://defence-blog.com/news/iraqs-sold ... -iraq.html

Might be possible to equip drones with little missiles that work off a similar principle as the old AGM-88 systems.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:23 am

Question, again, for Russia: are you choosing to ignore facts because you want use of chemical weapons, don't care, or can't restrain Assad?
https://twitter.com/TFletcher/status/852531725922127872

UK ambassadors get paid to shitpost on twitter

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:23 am

TheReal_ND wrote:With straight face, #Russia amb asking @OPCW how #WhiteHelmets could have treated sarin victims on Apr 4 without getting sick. #MustBeStaged
https://twitter.com/TimEdwutz/status/852545045924372482

If that image you linked early on is legitimate, then it would seem more likely they were treating exposure to chlorine.

And we all know that the people who were allegedly attacked with sarin are the ones who have been attacking others with chlorine for years now.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:26 am

I posted the entire video from YouTube. It should still be up.

We've got some fresh footage from clashes between Rebels & IS close to Dara'a in the Golan heights: