What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:59 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:33 pm
The thing about Democratic Socialists in America is that they are neither democratic nor socialists

Democratic Socialism is a British paradigm, its the compromise to stave off the overthrow of the Crown

In America, the paradigm is religion, American Democratic Socialists are really just the Temperance Leagues

It's not Karl Marx, it's Carrie Nation

Liz Warren is the Temperance Lady

Christian Socialism is not democratic, it is imposed by Hatchetation

This is why the black folk don't go for it

Because in fact, the Temperance Leagues were in league with the Confederates

Niggaz for Biden know the score
Didn't the Fabians want straight up Stalinism tho?
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:11 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:33 pm
The thing about Democratic Socialists in America is that they are neither democratic nor socialists

Democratic Socialism is a British paradigm, its the compromise to stave off the overthrow of the Crown

In America, the paradigm is religion, American Democratic Socialists are really just the Temperance Leagues

It's not Karl Marx, it's Carrie Nation

Liz Warren is the Temperance Lady

Christian Socialism is not democratic, it is imposed by Hatchetation

This is why the black folk don't go for it

Because in fact, the Temperance Leagues were in league with the Confederates

Niggaz for Biden know the score

Do you think Wilson and Roosevelt's endgame was just straight up Socialism? The more I learn about Progressivism the more it seems like another form of Socialism. Society is man. Man needs saving. Govt is Jesus. Jesus will save you.

The Progressives are thwarted by Goldwater types, but they incrementally are trying to move us closer to Salvation.
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:10 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:11 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:33 pm
The thing about Democratic Socialists in America is that they are neither democratic nor socialists

Democratic Socialism is a British paradigm, its the compromise to stave off the overthrow of the Crown

In America, the paradigm is religion, American Democratic Socialists are really just the Temperance Leagues

It's not Karl Marx, it's Carrie Nation

Liz Warren is the Temperance Lady

Christian Socialism is not democratic, it is imposed by Hatchetation

This is why the black folk don't go for it

Because in fact, the Temperance Leagues were in league with the Confederates

Niggaz for Biden know the score

Do you think Wilson and Roosevelt's endgame was just straight up Socialism? The more I learn about Progressivism the more it seems like another form of Socialism. Society is man. Man needs saving. Govt is Jesus. Jesus will save you.

The Progressives are thwarted by Goldwater types, but they incrementally are trying to move us closer to Salvation.
Progressivism is not FDR, Progressivism predates FDR

Progressivism is Christian Temperance rebranded, which originates in the Second Great Awakening 1800-1820

This is the Dry's, the Know Nothings, the Anti-Saloon League, the Temperance Lady

The endgame is that you get into Heaven for all your do-gooderism.

You got the twin Hyperprotestant sects, Work Ethic & Prohibition. French Huguenots & British Victorians

You work yourself to death at the coalface, while saving the widows & orphans in the streets.
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:30 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:59 pm
Didn't the Fabians want straight up Stalinism tho?
Not Stalinists, Kaiserists

They wanted the same system the German Empire had, the German Empire being the world's first welfare state.

The Kaiser didn't allow for democracy, but in return for your loyalty, he took care of you
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Fife » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:32 pm

IOW, government employees.

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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:43 pm

The purpose of Democratic Socialism is not to acheive the World Socialist Revolution

The purpose is the exact opposite

The purpose of Democratic Socialism is to save the British Crown

The Fabians were Victorians, it was just more of the same Victorian Missionary Impulse.
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:13 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:10 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:11 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:33 pm
The thing about Democratic Socialists in America is that they are neither democratic nor socialists

Democratic Socialism is a British paradigm, its the compromise to stave off the overthrow of the Crown

In America, the paradigm is religion, American Democratic Socialists are really just the Temperance Leagues

It's not Karl Marx, it's Carrie Nation

Liz Warren is the Temperance Lady

Christian Socialism is not democratic, it is imposed by Hatchetation

This is why the black folk don't go for it

Because in fact, the Temperance Leagues were in league with the Confederates

Niggaz for Biden know the score

Do you think Wilson and Roosevelt's endgame was just straight up Socialism? The more I learn about Progressivism the more it seems like another form of Socialism. Society is man. Man needs saving. Govt is Jesus. Jesus will save you.

The Progressives are thwarted by Goldwater types, but they incrementally are trying to move us closer to Salvation.
Progressivism is not FDR, Progressivism predates FDR

Progressivism is Christian Temperance rebranded, which originates in the Second Great Awakening 1800-1820

This is the Dry's, the Know Nothings, the Anti-Saloon League, the Temperance Lady

The endgame is that you get into Heaven for all your do-gooderism.

You got the twin Hyperprotestant sects, Work Ethic & Prohibition. French Huguenots & British Victorians

You work yourself to death at the coalface, while saving the widows & orphans in the streets.
No and no. Nice try Ealeanor.
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:25 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:13 pm

No and no. Nice try Ealeanor.
Indeed.

Prohibition incited a revolution

The draconian law led to a general break down of law & order to the threshold of destabilizing the government
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:15 pm

They should have kept prohibition legal longer to the point where the people rebelled and pulled an American Revolution 2. In 1935 we could have a new constitutional convention. Drastically limiting federal government powers, adding armor to the original bill of rights, and adding an amendment saying that the government cannot legislate against what a person puts in their bodies or lock them up for owning said chemical. That would have been the right direction for America to take.

Al Capone is small potatoes to the Federal Gangs of today. Police, Alphabet agencies, and IRS incite more terror and slavery in a year than he did in a lifetime. Oh well...
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Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:34 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:15 pm
They should have kept prohibition legal longer to the point where the people rebelled and pulled an American Revolution 2. In 1935 we could have a new constitutional convention. Drastically limiting federal government powers, adding armor to the original bill of rights, and adding an amendment saying that the government cannot legislate against what a person puts in their bodies or lock them up for owning said chemical. That would have been the right direction for America to take.

Al Capone is small potatoes to the Federal Gangs of today. Police, Alphabet agencies, and IRS incite more terror and slavery in a year than he did in a lifetime. Oh well...
That's not how it would have gone tho,

If you had a convention in 1935 you would have ended up with a constitution like Canada's

The slaveholding Deists in the 18th century were far more libertarian than 1930's America

The holding of slaves itself was an extreme liberty

Talk about doing whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want, and get the fuck off my land

People in the 1930's loved them some Alphabet Agencies, those were all the rage

Both the left and the right went cuckoo authoritarian in the 1930's, they just wouldn't give up their booze

Even the cops themselves were Scofflaws, this is why the FBI was invented in the first place.
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