Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:08 pm

I have no time for stupid. You do you. This is a pandemic and stupid people should just die. Let them go.

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:10 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:08 pm
I have no time for stupid. You do you. This is a pandemic and stupid people should just die. Let them go.
More poon and strawberries for the rest of us.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:12 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:10 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:08 pm
I have no time for stupid. You do you. This is a pandemic and stupid people should just die. Let them go.
More poon and strawberries for the rest of us.
Hence why I am at DEFCON 1

I'm not giving up my poon to another man without going down swinging maximum alpha all the way

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:13 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:07 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 am


SK was the first to stop travelers from China and apply local quarantines, lockdowns and social distancing. The reason they haven't had to use draconian measures is that they have a population prepared to listen to advice and do what they are told.
It's not even that they are a more docile populous, it's because they were hit hard by SARS 1 and remembered the lessons learned. More geography than social differences.
They were also better prepared in terms of equipment which has helped contain and track the spread.
All achieved through central planning.
There's little difference between Italy and the rest of Europe or even the US in terms of procedures, healthcare standards or preparation. They just suffered because they had less time to prepare.
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons.
You are so obtuse it makes talking to you really difficult at times.
SK were able to respond the way they did because they had the testing kits and processing capacity to track and contain the virus. With the possible exception of Germany no one else could follow their example because they simply didn't have the testing capacity.
Your whole ''we should follow SK's example'' argument falls flat on its face once you accept that information.
SK didn't have a different strategy, they just executed it better than everyone else.
The reason they had that capacity was due to less government in health care, not more government in health care. Market Forces FTW.

Go suck some more government dick faggot.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:15 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:08 pm
I have no time for stupid. You do you. This is a pandemic and stupid people should just die. Let them go.
The optimal response of individuals to the pandemic, and the response of governments to the pandemic are two different things entirely that you are falsely equating. One size fits all taken to ridiculous extremes, such as "no economy until they develop a vaccine, imposed via draconian government crackdown", is not the way to go.

Killing the economy will slow the development of a vaccine on top of it, you stupid muthafuckah. You virtue signal like you're saving lives, when really more people die if government listened to you, you counter-productive useful idiot.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by heydaralon » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:16 pm

It is interesting, because economists sometimes point out that when a Recession happens, deaths increase. Higher stress, more boozing, more relapses into addiction, worse eating habits, less sleep, and more suicides. I wonder if the economic collapse will kill more than this stupid nonissue virus. I still do not take this Corona nonsense too seriously. I am more worried about the longterm economic consequences plus the precedent being set for authoritarian gov't solutions. I think that 9 times out of 10, people's responses to problems are more scary than the problems themselves. We will see.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:21 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:13 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:07 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons.
You are so obtuse it makes talking to you really difficult at times.
SK were able to respond the way they did because they had the testing kits and processing capacity to track and contain the virus. With the possible exception of Germany no one else could follow their example because they simply didn't have the testing capacity.
Your whole ''we should follow SK's example'' argument falls flat on its face once you accept that information.
SK didn't have a different strategy, they just executed it better than everyone else.
The reason they had that capacity was due to less government in health care, not more government in health care. Market Forces FTW.

Go suck some more government dick faggot.
So you've abandoned the ''SK had a better strategy'' argument in favour of unsourced claims about less government interference in healthcare?
Well, that's progress at least. Small steps.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:21 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:10 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:08 pm
I have no time for stupid. You do you. This is a pandemic and stupid people should just die. Let them go.
More poon and strawberries for the rest of us.
It's as if Monty Python made a God damned Black Death movie.

Queue Graham Chapman walking on stage, "I think we ought to fucking just let everybody catch this black death kerfuffle and then we can just bury some old people and get on with it."

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:23 pm

As usual, StA's go to argument tactic, when he is losing an argument, is a strawman and his favorite strawman is him projecting his own faults onto that strawman. Then he acts incredulous, that a strawman built from his own faults or otherwise fabricated, could be so stupid.

Wash-rinse-repeat ad infinitum
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