4th Amendment Thread

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Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:52 pm

This Company Built a Private Surveillance Network. We Tracked Someone With It

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ne87 ... eaders-drn
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Re: 4th Amendment Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:53 am

Another reason why this entire car stamp tax (aka license plate racket) needs to be scrapped. The government has no legitimate interest in identifying the owners of every car on the road that outweigh American's right to privacy.

Even the threat of terrorism and crime is a bullshir justification because criminals will just spoof tags anyway. These tags are nothing more than the King's stamp tax on your ability to live and work in communities deliberately designed to require automobiles.

I don't even see the point of driver's licenses at this point since the DMV basically hands them out without hardly any screening whatsoever. That is just another revenue scheme right there. And, again, a dude with warrants can roll with fake ID or none at all.

And it's not that I lack sympathy for the repo man. Pay your auto loan on time or call the bank to work something out. But a database like that is dangerous as fuck.

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Post by Fife » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:06 am

Once the federal police got Americans to buy into the fake-assed "reasonable expectation of privacy" canard, it really was all over.

Fucking pragmatists killed us fam. People wouldn't know a principle if it hit them in the mouth on "Climate Strike Day," or some such shit.

Revisit the mosaic theory to remember what the 4th amendment and the scourge of British General Warrants was really all about: viewtopic.php?p=179091#p179091

https://www.lawfareblog.com/defense-mosaic-theory

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Re: 4th Amendment Thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:08 am

I'll copy paste the OP but the thread is much better
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/227263075
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/2 ... #227289201


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Today, the Fake News NYT published an article about the EFF getting a bunch of FBI docs declassified through FOIA. the documents reveal the FBI has submitted over 500,000 National Security Letters to over 750 businesses in the US since the Patriot Act passed back in October 2001.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... tters1.pdf
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... tters2.pdf
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... tters3.pdf
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... tters4.pdf

the way it works is every 60 days, the FBI submits an NSL to the corporate counsel at each company. the company's lead attorney is forbidden from telling anyone about the FBI's secret letter, under penalty of being prosecuted under the Espionage Act. what the FBI's NSL demands of the companies is for the companies to hand over all "Tangible Things"--all business records. if you remember back in June 2013, the very first of the Snowden leaks was the FISA order to Verizon demanding all "Tangible Things" like business records of all customers of Verizon. the FISA orders were renewed every 180 days. and it wasn't just Verizon, but it was AT&T and all the big ISPs and telecom providers and big Internet companies like Google and Apple and Microsoft and Facebook--the PRISM Partners.

if you scan through the over 1,200 pages of the documents linked above, they are boilerplate legalese which the FBI gives to each company they serve with an NSL. the interesting details are the names of the companies who are being forced to hand over their entire customer databases to the FBI. Verizon, AT&T, Microsoft, Google, they're all in there, but there are a lot more smaller companies i never would have thought were targets of the FBI and PRISM. all of the credit agencies like Equifax and Experian are PRISM'd. ebay and Paypal too. all of the cable providers like Cox and Comcast. all of the banks are in there, and not just the national banks, but the regional banks. the FBI has all of your financial records. the FBI is even taking all of the records from the Federal Reserve Bank of NY, which i thought was surprising. the FBI is spying on the banksters. maybe they could tell us where Jeffrey Epstein's mysterious fortune came from?

you Autists should help me and scan through these files to see if you recognize any of the smaller companies named as FBI snitches, so that we can have a definitive list of kiked up companies to not do business with. there is an urgency with this, given today's announcement that DHS will be targeting White Nationalists as terrorists. it means the FBI will begin trawling through all of your business records to find ways to fuck you over and harass you and get your accounts closed and get you fired and get you evicted and frame you and entrap you lock you up for life in another false flag at a Walmart. so you need to stop doing business with the 750 companies in the PRISM program, because we need every able bodied white man of sound mind to survive and not get taken off the minecraft server and to stick around for when the boogaloo begins.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:52 pm

Fuck this circus.
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Post by Hastur » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:47 am

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article ... crime.html

The United States Internal Revenue Service says it purchased access to a marketing database that offers location data for millions of US cellphones, so the IRS can identify and track persons suspected of tax-related crimes.
The unsuccessful effort illustrates how marketing data, and locatin data, are used by law enforcement to track and I.D. individual people suspected of criminal activity.
Reports Byron Tau at the Wall Street Journal wrote:The IRS Criminal Investigation unit, or IRS CI, had a subscription to access the data in 2017 and 2018, and the way it used the data was revealed last week in a briefing by IRS CI officials to Sen. Ron Wyden's (D., Ore.) office. The briefing was described to The Wall Street Journal by an aide to the senator.
IRS CI officials told Mr. Wyden's office that their lawyers had given verbal approval for the use of the database, which is sold by a Virginia-based government contractor called Venntel Inc. Venntel obtains anonymized location data from the marketing industry and resells it to governments. IRS CI added that it let its Venntel subscription lapse after it failed to locate any targets of interest during the year it paid for the service, according to Mr. Wyden's aide.
Justin Cole, a spokesman for IRS CI, said it entered into a ''limited contract with Venntel to test their services against the law enforcement requirements of our agency.'' IRS CI pursues the most serious and flagrant violations of tax law, and it said it used the Venntel database in ''significant money-laundering, cyber, drug and organized-crime cases.''
Senator Ron Wyden wrote:The government should be a prosecutor of shady data brokers, not a customer. The IRS wasted taxpayer money and failed to catch tax cheats, all while abusing Americans' privacy. The government needs to stop taking shortcuts over Americans' 4th amendment rights. https://t.co/tIv4SguCbc
'-- Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) June 19, 2020
Jim Cantrell wrote:The 4th Amendment limiting government's ability for unreasonable search & seizure is under constant assault. The latest is the IRS who now uses commercial data from our cellphones to track without warrants. @LPNational @alllibertynews @TheLibRepublic https://t.co/GEUWcisu9G

— Jim Cantrell (@jamesncantrell) June 19, 2020
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Re: 4th Amendment Thread

Post by C-Mag » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:22 pm

Govt can hide cameras on your property and it's legal

https://www.agweb.com/article/governmen ... pen-fields
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