Unite the Right

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Fife wrote:OK, that's moron bait, and I know that you are just making a gag, but if you're willing to adopt that graphic as your raison d'etre, we'll use that as the definition. Just let me know.
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Fife wrote:
DBTrek wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I didn't say they were fantastic people. The point I made was about the implosion of the democratic party. You are trying to deflect again.
I'm not deflecting anything. Jesus, you clowns have a magical bag of holding full of buzzwords you pull out every time you want to talk but have nothing to say.

Let's go with the implosion of the democratic party. Let's make the unfounded assumption that this isn't another repetition of the endless cycle of power that sees D's/R's waxing or waning in power over time. The democrats are done, and now the leftists are in the streets, in the corporate boardrooms, in the media, and fully advancing their aims and agenda without control of a single branch of government. Yet even without government control they manage to remove statues, silence the opposition, block immigration orders of the president, fire people for wrong-think, and spam the populace with their worldview via MSM and social media.

Meanwhile, "the right" has all three branches of government, and inexplicably can't pass even the most basic bits of their supposed agenda.

How is the implosion of the democratic party helping the right?

Here comes what I think is an entirely reasonable request >>>


What does "the right" mean in the context of your last post?

(I say that nowadays, "the right" is just a construct of the state (just like "the left")).

Define "the right," if you please.
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DBTrek wrote:Image
Fair enough, but right now, everything seems to be in the center left to the left in that spectrum, not seeing a whole lotta folks down there demanding classical liberalism.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Fife wrote:

Define "the right," if you please.
Amongst the MHF brain-trust:
"Right" = "Republican Party".
"Left" = "Democratic Party".
"Independent/Moderate" = "Lolberg/Democrat"

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The entire idea of a left-right spectrum is bullshit. It's hard to let it go because we were all indoctrinated into it. But its' not reality. If it were, it would be like saying Fife is maybe two notches away from Nukedog, when they hold two totally different ideologies. It would be like saying the difference between a cuck like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump is merely a matter of degree, which is so obviously false if you just analyze it a little. This entire paradigm breeds only facile political discourse. I am more interested in how things really are.

In reality there exist LOTS of different political philosophies and positions to take, and people are all over the place.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:The entire idea of a left-right spectrum is bullshit. It's hard to let it go because we were all indoctrinated into it. But its' not reality. If it were, it would be like saying Fife is maybe two notches away from Nukedog, when they hold two totally different ideologies. It would be like saying the difference between a cuck like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump is merely a matter of degree, which is so obviously false if you just analyze it a little.

In reality there exist LOTS of different political philosophies and positions to take, and people are all over the place.

Generally - though - you have people who hate Anglo Saxon/Western culture and you have those who like it.
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Alright, then go with "the right" being believers of the Ten Cannots:
  • 1. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

    2. You cannot help little men by tearing down big men.

    3. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.

    4. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

    5. You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money.

    6. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

    7. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn.

    8. You cannot build character and courage by destroying men's initiative and independence.

    9. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they can and should do for themselves.

    10. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
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Ooh! I wanna draw some lines, too!

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At the end of the day, whenever you have populism running amok, that's all going to slide to the left by default, populists ruling as a mob, dueling communes is left on left violence, and if it expands into every venue, there's no room remaining for anybody on the right to even get a word in edgewise.
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Zlaxer wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The entire idea of a left-right spectrum is bullshit. It's hard to let it go because we were all indoctrinated into it. But its' not reality. If it were, it would be like saying Fife is maybe two notches away from Nukedog, when they hold two totally different ideologies. It would be like saying the difference between a cuck like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump is merely a matter of degree, which is so obviously false if you just analyze it a little.

In reality there exist LOTS of different political philosophies and positions to take, and people are all over the place.

Generally - though - you have people who hate Anglo Saxon/Western culture and you have those who like it.

That's what I have been trying to explain. Most of what we are calling the "left" right now is a form of social degeneration manifested as a collective political will. It's not really a genuine political ideology in that all their arguments are better described as rationalizations to justify their preexisting desire to basically burn civilization to the ground.

This goes on periodically. The Romans had to deal with people like this too.

Everything that is not degeneracy is getting lumped in as "right wing" these days, though I am not sure how libertarians get a free pass when they are rightfully better categorized with the degenerates.