Coronavirus thread

[TheReal_ND]

Just to verify something: If any of you (Americans) were to get COVID-19, and had to stay a week in a hospital bed, how much will that probably cost you? For the hospital treatment alone, I mean. Would the insurance cover all of the cost? And if you like many other Americans lost your job, how much would the hospital bill be for a treatment for COVID, then?

Americans have the health care system and labor market they have. That’s the one they need to work with. I don’t see how or even why you can want or expect Americans to want to stay home and lose their jobs "to stay healthy" when being out of a job means getting sick can then bankrupt you. If you need a job in order to afford to get sick, society shutting down is just another way to slowly kill you.

Just don't pay. Simple as

[Haumana]

I can appreciate the fear, man.
Serious. I got loved ones. I don't want them to die. I don't want their organs to be crippled. I don't want to bury anyone unnecessarily.
But there is no plan that saves people from both the virus and economic catastrophe.
Stay indoors until a vaccine appears in 18 months to 2 years isn't a plan. People will die under that plan as surely as they'll die from COVID. Every extended lock down plan has not set end date. Only lofty goals that aren't achievable in a time frame until economic pressures kill and damage more people than the virus will.

We need to reopen wisely.
But we need to reopen.

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[The Conservative]

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I don't know why you are all plussing this, we have been saying this since day one. Treat this like the flu, open smartly, and be cautious of general interaction if you are susceptible to getting sick...

How hard is this to understand... this is common sense, which as of late, and as proof of this topic, is a lot rarer than it should be.

[TheReal_ND]

"open smartly" is just cuck speak for "please don't fuck me too hard."

I would downboat this shit to Oblivion if I could.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Just to verify something: If any of you (Americans) were to get COVID-19, and had to stay a week in a hospital bed, how much will that probably cost you? For the hospital treatment alone, I mean. Would the insurance cover all of the cost? And if you like many other Americans lost your job, how much would the hospital bill be for a treatment for COVID, then?

Americans have the health care system and labor market they have. That’s the one they need to work with. I don’t see how or even why you can want or expect Americans to want to stay home and lose their jobs "to stay healthy" when being out of a job means getting sick can then bankrupt you. If you need a job in order to afford to get sick, society shutting down is just another way to slowly kill you.

Just don't pay. Simple as

This lol

[PartyOf5]

Treat this like the flu,

[PartyOf5]

Not if you're on Medicaid.

I have to plead ignorance on that one.
I have no idea how the Medicaid system works.

People below a certain income level (I think it's 125% above poverty line) qualify. They have small co-pays (sometimes $5) and deductibles in the hundreds, not the thousands that most working people have now under high deductible plans. The state pays for the rest. There are people that have $50,000 in medical expenses who only need to pay hundreds.

The ones who get screwed over the most in the US are the ones well off enough to not qualify for Medicaid but not rich enough to be able to afford whatever happens. Those are the ones that end up getting bankrupted by medical bills.

[Zlaxer]

Not if you're on Medicaid.

I have to plead ignorance on that one.
I have no idea how the Medicaid system works.

People below a certain income level (I think it's 125% above poverty line) qualify. They have small co-pays (sometimes $5) and deductibles in the hundreds, not the thousands that most working people have now under high deductible plans. The state pays for the rest. There are people that have $50,000 in medical expenses who only need to pay hundreds.

The ones who get screwed over the most in the US are the ones well off enough to not qualify for Medicaid but not rich enough to be able to afford whatever happens. Those are the ones that end up getting bankrupted by medical bills.

Gift house to kids then don't pay and file bankruptcy - (not legal advice).

[PartyOf5]

Like it or not things are going to open back up. If we stay in the same level of lock down we've had the past 2 months for another 2 months things will be just as bad, just instead of COVID deaths and permanent harm it will be deaths due to missed cancer screenings, suicide, and other causes.

We also can't just say F-it and act like nothing is out there. Companies should at the very least be checking temps and sending people above 100.4 back home. Keep people distanced as much as possible. It won't stop spread, but it helps to limit it, which is what we've been trying to do all along. Stopping it completely isn't going to happen until there is a vaccine, and even then it may be like the flu where they can vaccinate you against the strain they know but not any new ones that pop up.

I'm compromised, and I've already planned on not attending any concerts, sporting events, or anything else with large groups of people for the rest of 2020. I will minimize my contact and possible exposure as much as possible. I hope that others respect that. That includes keeping a distance from people wearing masks, gloves, or otherwise indicating they have concerns about catching this.

We will see what happens as things open back up. At this point I'm not certain of any outcome, but I expect there will be flare ups throughout the year and maybe certain areas will have to be locked back down in order to calm the spread before it gets out of hand like in New York and New Jersey.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm compromised, and I've already planned on not attending any concerts, sporting events, or anything else with large groups of people for the rest of 2020

You sound like a faggot