Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

[SuburbanFarmer]

I'm not going to disrespect you, so let me lay out why I feel this is a coup. I'll try to keep this brief.

The FBI leadership in their own words set up an 'insurance policy' should Trump win, they didn't like Trump
FBI used reverse targeting to spy on Trump.
FBI worked with Fusion GPS and the DNC to acquire the Steele Dossier, probably provided financial assistance too
FBI went to the DOJ with the Steele Dossier in hand as facts and received a FISA warrant to make legal spying, so you can use the intel in the legal system

This is the entire legal basis for the Russia claims, and the dossier has been proven to be false. However, that basis is why a special counsel was started to investigate Trump and Russian collusion.

Lots of legal problems here for the FBI.

I'm starting to see what you're on about now. This link you posted was extremely helpful: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -big-deal/

Honestly, as I mentioned, it's just been a constant drone of hyperbole and hand-waving to the casual observer. This is laid out much more clearly (and alarmingly).


Anyway, no need to accuse people of arguing for the other side, just because they call you on some minor point. It was a picture of Fukushima.

GCF, ssu please forgive me for the use of the Fuki pic


To me, we are in dangerous territory because we know we had government agencies putting their finger on the scale for one candidate over another. Doesn't matter that it was Trump-Clinton involved. It's probably happened before. But once it is exposed, we need to purge the people involved. The FBI had to be cleaned up after J Edgar Hoover too.

The other big issue is the reverse targeting. I've read insiders say that what the FBI and intel people are really concerned with is that their illegal spying on Americans will be exposed and it will threaten to undo their powers to spy on Americans.

Yeah, this is when I really lost faith in the "American People". The Police State has been exposed for a decade now, and ignored. I can't even imagine how this is not the top issue on everyone's mind.

As for presidential elections.. well, they failed. That should give you some hope. The POTUS doesn't matter nearly as much to anyone's life as Congress, but that's ignored by everyone as well. POTUS is just a gigantic distraction technique, at this point.

[C-Mag]

I'm still not very clear on how Flynn is such an important part of this. The guy was in office for what, 2 weeks?

And what the hell is Bannon doing? https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01- ... treasonous

According to The Guardian, which apparently got its hands on a copy of "Fire and Fury" ahead of its expected release next week, Bannon unloads on Don Jr. and Kushner saying that their meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in New York was "treasonous" and/or "unpatriotic" and the FBI should have been called immediately

I don't know what's going on with either of them. IMO the knives were out for Flynn because he exposed some of the bullshit the IC was pulling in regards to Libya, Syria and the growth of ISIS. He went against the IC narrative and Obama admin and got fired for it. When he poked his head up with Trump, they went for his head.

Bannon is a wild card, sometimes I like him, sometimes I'm uncertain.

There is so much stuff coming out on all sides. I try to look for trends. I have my biases too. I'll tell you one thing I have changed my mind on recently, Trey Gowdy. I love to hear him talk, but it seems to be all talk. He never has anyone doing the perp walk, but he makes you feel like he has. Nunes and DeSantis have been far, far more serious about really getting to the bottom of government wrong doing.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Family Feud time.. Trump v. Bannon.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01- ... t-his-mind

Statement from the President of the United States

Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency.

When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.

Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.

Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look. Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country.

Yet Steve had everything to do with the loss of a Senate seat in Alabama held for more than thirty years by Republicans.

Steve doesn't represent my base-he's only in it for himself.

Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was. It is the only thing he does well. Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool a few people with no access and no clue, whom he helped write phony books.

We have many great Republican members of Congress and candidates who are very supportive of the Make America Great Again agenda. Like me, they love the United States of America and are helping to finally take our country back and build it up, rather than simply seeking to burn it all down.

This is highschool politics. Unbelievable.

[C-Mag]

Yeah, this is when I really lost faith in the "American People". The Police State has been exposed for a decade now, and ignored. I can't even imagine how this is not the top issue on everyone's mind.

As for presidential elections.. well, they failed. That should give you some hope. The POTUS doesn't matter nearly as much to anyone's life as Congress, but that's ignored by everyone as well. POTUS is just a gigantic distraction technique, at this point.

Agreed.

We have a chance right now to make an impact, and I think the evidence is going to be exposed in the next 90 days. The problem is the MSM is fully committed against Trump, committed to a level that for the American people to win and prove out this corruption, the MSM press will be figuratively destroyed.

The problem I see is that there seems to be a consensus in government to hold the leaders in government accountable. Obama violated the War Powers Act and no one batted an eye. W got the Intel Comm to gin up evidence to invade Iraq* and nothing happened. Clinton pulled a lot of shady shit with China, but the duopoly just talked about cigars. They have put in place all these unconstitutional committees to control what happens in the end. " Oh, this information is sensitive to National Security, so we will listen to this testimony with our select few in private, Hrumpf." Well, I say FU, that is not an open government.


* IMO the Iraq invasion was more about an old school royal family feud than anything else. Saddam tried to off GHW Bush, so W took care of Saddam for his old man. Vengence

[ssu]

The FBI is a shit show. Their leadership is corrupt, running illegal spy operations and obstructing justice................ or is the FBI just doin great to you ?

Saint Trump to the rescue then.

[ssu]

Let's see how Trump worshippers spin this one:

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”

[C-Mag]

The FBI is a shit show. Their leadership is corrupt, running illegal spy operations and obstructing justice................ or is the FBI just doin great to you ?

Saint Trump to the rescue then.

Trump is no Saint, and he doesn't try to play one either. The reason Trump is good is he is disrupting an entrenched Washington DC system. We would have not learned any of this had Hillary won.

[SuburbanFarmer]

* IMO the Iraq invasion was more about an old school royal family feud than anything else. Saddam tried to off GHW Bush, so W took care of Saddam for his old man. Vengence

That's the MSM narrative. The real dope is that Sadaam was talking about exchanging oil for something other than dollars. Same as Ghaddafi. Once they do that, they're on the neocon shit list.

Iran has jumped aboard with the new petro-yuan. Notice how quickly they became our Serious Global Enemy #1 again.

[C-Mag]

Let's see how Trump worshippers spin this one:

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”

So now you like Bannon.

The above doesn't bother me. This is a pissin match that started over the Alabama election. Appointing Jeff Sessions was Trumps worst play as POTUS. Sessions is owned by the Deep State and it led to the Alabama election, which was a shit show.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Let's see how Trump worshippers spin this one:

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”

So now you like Bannon.

The above doesn't bother me. This is a pissin match that started over the Alabama election. Appointing Jeff Sessions was Trumps worst play as POTUS. Sessions is owned by the Deep State and it led to the Alabama election, which was a shit show.

I was told that Sessions was the Grand Savior of the Republic, just a few months ago.. Now how could both be true?