He literally got a front row seat on the highest cost military roller coaster known to mankind and he still fucked it up.Smitty-48 wrote:pay his dues in Vietnam
What the heck are you blabbering on about, you mindless halfwit? What are you, smoking crystal meth or something?Nukedog wrote:He literally got a front row seat on the highest cost military roller coaster known to mankind and he still fucked it up.Smitty-48 wrote:pay his dues in Vietnam
Pay his dues
lol and his "captors" payed him right back by giving him top notch surgery and a campaign endorsement.
Same now as he ever was. Grunts for grunt. Silver spooned senators for horses.
Stick it up my what? Even your profane comebacks are nonsensical gibberish; lay off that trailer pipe, tweaker boy, lol.Nukedog wrote:Whatever. Stick up for your faggot stick boy.
Willie Brown wrote:Democrats are handing President Trump a big fat “F” for his six months in office, but in this case the “F” may stand for frustration.
No matter what you think of Trump’s policies or personality, he has beaten Democrats on every angle.
The stock market is up. Unemployment is down.
And Trump has gotten nearly every nominee he wanted, including Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court, which was absolutely critical to fulfilling the Republican agenda.
Even his inability to repeal Obamacare has turned into a backhanded win for Trump, if for no other reason than that it’s freed him from having to come up with a workable alternative, which he clearly does not have.
Like it or not, he’s doing what his supporters wanted him to do: make a lot of noise, hit the brakes on the Democratic agenda and keep them entertained.
And you have to admit, for all its embarrassments, Trump’s made-for-TV White House is certainly entertaining.
What a cast of characters: the sinister and elusive Steve Bannon, the ditzy Kellyanne Conway, the just-bounced Sean Spicer and now “Baby Don” Trump Jr.
Add in the stone-faced special prosecutor (Robert Mueller), the hapless attorney general (Jeff Sessions) and a couple of Russian spy types, and you have an Austin Powers movie.
But perhaps Trump’s biggest accomplishment is that, after six months, he’s still in office. And that may be the Democrats’ biggest frustration of all.
Smitty's right. It wasn't McCain's fault, but he did crash a plane due to pilot error.Nukedog wrote:Whatever. Stick up for your faggot stick boy.
I hope he dies very painfully.
Edit: not before taking out lisping Lindsey in a lovers quarrel.
That would be too good though. Maybe we can finally repeal AFCA then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fireMcCain did lose two Navy aircraft while piloting them. One crash was found to be be McCain's fault, the other due to an engine failure of undetermined cause.. A third was destroyed on the deck of the carrier USS Forrestal when a missile fired accidentally from another plane hit either the plane next to McCain's or, less likely, his own aircraft, triggering a disastrous fire that killed 134 sailors and nearly killed McCain. A fourth plane was lost when he was shot down over North Vietnam on a bombing mission over Hanoi.
A fifth alleged "crash" turns out to be a misinterpretation of a flight accident that did not result in the loss of the aircraft. McCain admitted to causing that incident through "daredevil clowning" but returned safely.
At about 10:50 (local time) on 29 July, while preparing for the second strike of the day, an unguided 5.0 in (127.0 mm) Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in an LAU-10 underwing rocket pod mounted on an F-4B Phantom II (believed to be aircraft No. 110 from VF-11[1]), accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external to internal power. The surge, and a missing rocket safety pin, which would have prevented the fail surge, as well as a decision to plug in the "pigtail" system early to increase the number of takeoffs from the carrier, allowed the rocket to launch.
The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on an A-4E Skyhawk awaiting launch,[1] aircraft No. 405 from VA-46, piloted by Lieutenant Commander Fred D. White.[2][13] The Zuni rocket's warhead safety mechanism prevented it from detonating, but the impact tore the tank off the wing and ignited the resulting spray of escaping JP-5 fuel, causing an instantaneous conflagration. Within seconds, other external fuel tanks on White's aircraft overheated and ruptured, releasing more jet fuel to feed the flames, which began spreading along the flight deck.
The impact of the rocket had also dislodged two of the 1000-lb AN-M65 bombs, which fell to the deck, and lay in the pool of burning fuel between White's aircraft and that of Lieutenant Commander John McCain. Damage Control Team No. 8 swung into action immediately, and Chief Gerald Farrier, recognizing the risk, and without the benefit of protective clothing, immediately smothered the bombs with a PKP fire extinguisher in an effort to knock down the fuel fire long enough to allow the pilots to escape. The pilots, still strapped into their aircraft, were immediately aware that a disaster was unfolding, but only some were able to escape in time. McCain, pilot of A-4 Skyhawk side No. 416, next to White's, was among the first to notice the flames, and escaped by scrambling down the nose of his A-4 and jumping off the refueling probe shortly before the explosions began.
Speaker to Animals wrote:This is from the captain of the Forrestal:
That jet that experienced an "extreme wet start for some unknown reason" was John McCain's bird."for some unknown reason, a plane parked near the carrier's island, midway up the 1,045 foot flight deck, experienced an 'extreme wet start.'
"This malfunction, comparable to what happens when a cigarette lighter is ignited after having been filled to full, occurs about once a week on attack carriers, but almost never so severely as it did yesterday."
"A thick tongue of flame lashed backward from the parked jet, igniting a missile on one of the dozen or so planes parked near the fantail, their engines turning over in readiness for a strike launching scheduled for 11 a.m.The rocket ‘shot across the deck,’ Captain Beling said, 'and by a quirk of fate smashed into a fuel tank under a plane on the port side.'”
That's exactly what happened. The USN just glossed over it and concluded it "just happened", but everybody knew what happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_fireAt approximately 8:18 am, Enterprise was turning to port to conduct flight operations when a Zuni rocket, equipped with a 15-pound warhead of Composition B explosive, mounted on a F-4J Phantom parked on the stern, exploded after being heated by the exhaust from an MD-3A "Huffer", a tractor-mounted air starting unit used to start aircraft.[1][5] The explosion perforated the aircraft's fuel cells, and ignited the leaking JP-5 jet fuel. About a minute later, three additional Zuni rockets exploded; these blasts blew holes into the flight deck, allowing the burning JP-5 to pour into the 03 level directly under the flight deck.[1] Captain Kent Lee, commanding officer of the Enterprise, directed the port turn to continue after the first explosion, steering the ship into the wind to blow smoke away from the ship.[6] Approximately three minutes after the initial explosion, a bomb mounted on the Phantom exploded, having been engulfed in flames from the earlier explosions and burning fuel. This explosion blew a larger hole, approximately eight feet by seven feet, in the flight deck. The heat from the blast ignited additional fires on the 03 level, and debris from the explosion caused holes in the deck; this allowed burning fuel to spread further, entering the 02 and 01 levels and eventually the first deck. This explosion also damaged the twin agent units that provided firefighting foam to the area, rendering them inoperable as well as severing fire hoses in the area. In short order two 500 lb (227 kg) Mark 82 bombs detonated in succession. Several minutes after the detonations a bomb rack holding three Mk 82 bombs exploded. This blast tore a large hole, approximately 18 feet by 22 feet, into the flight deck, and ruptured a 6,000-gallon fuel tank mounted on a tanker aircraft; a massive fireball resulted from the fuel igniting, spreading the fire further. All told, eighteen explosions occurred, blowing eight holes into the flight deck and beyond.[1]
Despite the damage and the loss of the twin agent unit, the crew was able to extinguish the fires within four hours.[6]
The nuclear-powered cruiser USS Bainbridge came to the stricken carrier's aid during the fire.[7]
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