THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:11 pm

Sitting pretty in his jet

FLY FLY AWAY SONG BIRD MCCAIN

don't worry about all us non admiral sons that have to pay for your shit votes. No. You're good silver spoon McCain. Ur a hero.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:15 pm

Doesn't seem possible for a wet start plume on McCain's A-4 to have effected the zuni rocket launcher on the F-4, since McCain's engine nozzle was pointed out to sea, and the F-4 was on the opposite side of the deck with its nose pointed towards McCain's A-4, there's no way for exhuast gasses from McCain's jet to have reached the zuni rocket pod on the F-4.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:22 pm

Congratulations. You found a flaw in one argument against his service therefore all the rest are bunk. You are fake news.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:26 pm

Well, there's another flaw, because the supposed testimony of the "Captain of the Forrestal" posted by STA states that the fire occured "near the fantail", which is at the very stern of the carrier, when the fire actually occured at the totally opposite end of the ship, at the bow, so not very believable that said claim is actually being made by the Captain of the Forrestal, since he would know where the fire was, and that it was at the opposite end of the ship from the fantail.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:28 pm

Maybe the brass was willing to throw mud in his eye seeing as how that hot shot silver spoon fed drunk managed to crash more jets than is physically allowed for non aces. Wouldn't surprise me. Fuck him.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:42 pm

Meh, if John McCain didn't pay his dues in Vietnam, then nobody did.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:43 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Doesn't seem possible for a wet start plume on McCain's A-4 to have effected the zuni rocket launcher on the F-4, since McCain's engine nozzle was pointed out to sea, and the F-4 was on the opposite side of the deck with its nose pointed towards McCain's A-4, there's no way for exhuast gasses from McCain's jet to have reached the zuni rocket pod on the F-4.

Well, that's what the Navy concluded. The part that a lot of people take exception to is that it "just happened for some unknown reason". The reason is pretty obvious.



Go back and look at the footage:




Those two A-4 were parked in front of the two F-4. You can see the rocket from the F-4 hit McCain's bird and start the fire.

Flight crew testified that he deliberately wet started his bird to shake up the F-4 pilot, and that triggered the rocket.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Well, that's what the Navy concluded.

No they didn't. Seems like you've been taken in by made up internet bullshit, might want to check your sources next time. /shrugs
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:52 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Well, that's what the Navy concluded.

No they didn't. Seems like you've been taken in by made up internet bullshit, might want to check your sources next time. /shrugs

Uh... yeah, they actually did. They concluded that the jet just happened to wet start, and the flame caused that rocket to launch back into the aircraft with the original wet start, which started a fire, and the rest is history.

You can fucking see it in the very video you linked. Look at the smoke billowing back McCain's bird into those F-4 parked behind him.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:53 pm

Who fucking does that, anyway?

The Navy is weird. If that were the Air Force, he might still get a pass because his daddy is some general in the Pentagon, but somebody would have killed him in his hooch in the middle of the night. 1960's era USAF? Nah. Fuck that. Officers got fragged for FAR less shit than killing 134 men in a stupid stunt.
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