Beyond Woke

[The Conservative]

Now onto the issue at hand, they know better... they don't care.

If they want to make it in the military, they do what they are told.

well in my day you could still be a career Corporal

like I had no career aspirations other than being Caporal-Chef Det Commander in Recce Platoon

but the kids these days show up already indoctrinated into Woke

the military just picks up where the commie school teachers left off

the entire government is Woke, there is no agency of government which is not fully indoctrinated

it's not politics, it's a cult, so it sweeps through the institutions like wildfire

Sadly, it changed quite a bit since the 60s...

[Smitty-48]

Well, in the US Army you get free mess hall, free education, free healthcare, free lodging, or subsidized versions of the same if you choose to live off post.

Probably why the most entitled sloths I've encountered occupying government jobs are ex-military guys who have never really known what it's like to make their own way. They did 20 years with the taxpayers footing their bill, and they feel well entitled to another 30 years of taxpayers doing the same.

All the soldiers I know who excelled outside of the military took their skills to the private sector. The sloths went to government jobs, where they're still slothing today, while acting like they're doing the nation a favor for showing up to nap at their desk.

it's not like that in Canada, because nobody cares about the military here

nobody is impressed, it doesn't add anything to your CV, it's not lionized here like it is in America

people here just think you are weird for wanting to be in the military, the army is only 22,000

we were paid, housed & fed much better than the US Army, but we still had to pay for rent & food

[DBTrek]

I'm guessing Canada spends significantly less of its GDP on the military.

And I guess that makes sense.
I mean ... the biggest military threat is right across the Southern border, and you're not going to out-spend or out manpower them. The next biggest threat is across the Pacific, and you need a Navy and Airforce to deal with that more than an Army.

But in the USA, a military enlistment is basically everything the socialist here are clamoring for. The only caveat is, as I mentioned, soldiers have to perform a service for their socialism. Regular fatass American socialist aren't down with doing shit for anybody else - so they sure as hell aren't joining the military.

[Smitty-48]

I'm guessing Canada spends significantly less of its GDP on the military.

well they actually spend a lot of money

but it all gets eaten up by overhead

like they don't close bases here, nobody ever votes to close their local base

the bases are jobs programs for civilians

but it's enough bases for a million man army, when they only have 22,000 troops

so it's a giant boondoggle for civilians, which results in practically no combat power at all

everything is spent on the bloated staffs & bases, almost nothing is spent on equipment

[Smitty-48]

the army I joined in the 1980's was quite different

it wasn't that much larger, but it was frozen in time

it was the post WWII professional army they built in the 1950's

and nothing had changed since the 1950's

like we didn't even play O' Canada on parade

God Save The Queen was still the national anthem in the army

and it was old school, hardcore of the hardcore

so it was a true crucible, something to aspire to, a journey unto manhood

[Smitty-48]

bear in mind that in NATO at the time, it was almost all conscript armies

even America had just switched to the AVF in the 70's

it was just America, Britain & Canada which had professional armies

so even though the contribution was small, we were the elite of the elite on the Trace

we were called the Best Small Army in the World back then

so it was fun, we didn't think of it as a job, we just wanted to be at the tip of the NATO spear

[Smitty-48]

we also have the regimental system

like the US Army seemed like a vast corporation to me, a faceless mega corporation

my American grandparents wanted me to join the US Army

but in Canada & Britain, you don't actually join the army, you join a regiment

your regiment is your family, you don't get posted out of your regiment

you don't get moved around, if you are moved to a new post, it's as a battalion

so we worked with the same guys for years on end, that's why they're my brothers

decades of working on the same team, extremely tight knit

so that's why I picked the Canadian Army, that ultra tight knit unit appealed to me

really we were a bunch of eccentrics, romantic adventurers

the closest thing to us then, was the Foreign Legion

we didn't have loyalty to the army, nor even Canada, we were only loyal to the Queen & Regiment

hence why I had no career aspirations about climbing the ranks

that would just be pulling me aware from the brothers at the sharp end, and into an office role

I did it for fun & adventure & the brotherhood, it wasn't actually a career plan

and that's why I quit shortly after it went Woke, that killed it for me, on the spot

we called it Political Correctness back then, but it was proto Woke

soon as all that started to come down from on high, I let my contract run out, turned in my kit

[Smitty-48]

I remember when I got placed under formal investigation for using the word "faggot"

I got called into the office, the Major tells me somebody had complained about it

I'd known this officer since he was a Leftentant, so we were brothers, he wasn't out to get me

it's not like he was PC, he wasn't, but it was coming down from on high

I said, what faggot complained about me saying faggot, sir ?

he says, "I can't tell you that, and you can't say faggot anymore, Smitty!"

I says, what is this, the Soviet Union, you can't order me not to speak a word, sir

he says, "while I can now, Smitty, that's just how it is"

I says, fuck that, sir, that's fucking Communism, the thought police, totalitarian

he says, "I know it is, Smitty, but it's out of my hands"

so I says, I'll have to turn my kit in, sir, if that's how it's gonna be

he says, "I'm sorry to lose you, Smitty, but I can't blame you"

we were only just cluing in how this PC Wokeness was taking over the government at the time

this was not normal by the free country standards we had grown up with

there was no speech policing in the old school army, that never came up

our job was killing people, the idea that they would ban profanity in the army, was bizarre

the list of things they are banned from speaking in the military kept growing

now they are banned from speaking the truth about anything

it's reaching North Korean levels of totalitarian now, it's all to protect the elites from accountability

it is literally Stalinist purges now

it's like they just purged General Fortin, who was considered the best General in the army

they put him in charge of fixing the vaccine shortage problem, because he was the best

then some chick says she saw him naked in the barracks, way back in 1989

and that alone, she saw him naked, is being called "sexual misconduct"

and he was gone, the best General in the army, convicted & purged, no due process, no trial

they are taking down one senior officer after the next

Admiral Norman, General Vance, Admiral McDonald, General Fortin, the list keeps growing

it's all on trumped up or completely false charges, and it is all without any process, just a purge

they are decapitating the senior ranks, just like Stalin did to the Red Army in the 1930's

the senior officers thought they could avoid it by faking being Woke, but that's not saving them

[DBTrek]

They forget that Stalin only won the war by leaving his eastern flank entirely unprotected and throwing literally everything against Germany.

Why?

Because his army leadership, minus a few standouts like Zhukov, was ass.
The competent and strong commanders had long been executed.
Only the weak-ass yes man and rule simps remained.
And they marched soldiers into frozen waters, killing them, rather than disobey and obviously idiotic order.

[Smitty-48]

They forget that Stalin only won the war by leaving his eastern flank entirely unprotected and throwing literally everything against Germany.

Why?

Because his army leadership, minus a few standouts like Zhukov, was ass.
The competent and strong commanders had long been executed.
Only the weak-ass yes man and rule simps remained.
And they marched soldiers into frozen waters, killing them, rather than disobey and obviously idiotic order.

well, Stalin's solution was to put machine guns behind his own troops

so you either advance towards the Germans, or you will be shot by your own side

then they had the T-34, so they could outproduce the much more complex Tiger tank

and they copied the Germans, adopted encirclement as their conops

beating the Germans at their own game

and for those who say the Allied bombing campaign wasn't effective

what it actually did was force the Luftwaffe to defend in the West

this then robbed the Wehrmacht of air cover in the East

so the Soviets gained air superiority over the Germans, completing the Soviet Blitzkrieg

it was Stalin who was demanding more bombing, because it was keeping the Luftwaffe tied up

it was Stalin who demanded from Churchill that the RAF bomb Hamburg

because Hamburg was a mounting base which was sending forces to the Eastern Front