Child killing poll

[GloryofGreece]

Maybe suspect is not the correct choice of words..

I am rather confident this was all about organ harvesting.

Alder Hey, the hospital at the center of the controversy surrounding little Alfie Evans, the UK toddler who was removed from life support against his parents’ will and whose parents say he has suffered inhumane treatment at the hands of the hospital, was caught in a controversy just over a decade ago when it sold organs from living children to Aventis Pasteur, a vaccination research firm, and also stockpiled the organs of deceased infants for years without parental knowledge or consent.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/alfie-e ... ng-organs/

That makes me want to throw up
Has any hospital or corporation been shut down for this that you know of?

[Speaker to Animals]

Maybe suspect is not the correct choice of words..

I am rather confident this was all about organ harvesting.

Alder Hey, the hospital at the center of the controversy surrounding little Alfie Evans, the UK toddler who was removed from life support against his parents’ will and whose parents say he has suffered inhumane treatment at the hands of the hospital, was caught in a controversy just over a decade ago when it sold organs from living children to Aventis Pasteur, a vaccination research firm, and also stockpiled the organs of deceased infants for years without parental knowledge or consent.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/alfie-e ... ng-organs/

That makes me want to throw up
Has any hospital or corporation been shut down for this that you know of?

I am sure the British government will investigate themselves and ensure justice is served..

[SuburbanFarmer]

Burn it down.

[Otern]

The organ harvesting is not even consensual.

Read that article now. And the proposal is not about taking organs without consent. The parent's consent is still needed. This is actually a good thing, if they're able to propose the question in a proper manner to the parents, and the kid is dead or dying already, it's a good thing that their organs can be used to save lives.

[Montegriffo]

Burn it down.

Jeez, one roadtrip down South .....

[Speaker to Animals]

The organ harvesting is not even consensual.

Read that article now. And the proposal is not about taking organs without consent. The parent's consent is still needed. This is actually a good thing, if they're able to propose the question in a proper manner to the parents, and the kid is dead or dying already, it's a good thing that their organs can be used to save lives.

I am talking about the earlier article where they actually were harvesting baby organs without consent at that very hospital.

I think they are doing this routinely but they don't tell people. Remember, they still have no idea what was wrong with Alfie. So they don't really know whether he would improve if he left (assuming they are even honest about that much). In my experience with government agents in the American version of the NHS (the VA hospitals), these people have ZERO regard for your autonomy and consent. They believe they know better and they will do whatever they want to do, even employ the police to coerce you (as they did to me once), and they will never be held accountable for it because they are the people who are supposed to hold themselves accountable.

Baby organs are the most valuable organs that exist, by the way. I think they determined this child had no hope without ever bothering to figure out what was actually wrong with him. The parents decided to take him to Italy where doctors wanted a shot at the problem, and the hospital freaked out and asked the police to allow them to kidnap and execute Alfie rather than allow him moved to another care facility. That's odd, no?

It makes a lot of sense when you consider that they knew those organs were valuable, and they determined his life was not worth the lives they could save (or even the money they could earn), but then if they let him out and doctors who actually gave a shit about Alfie cured him, they'd probably have to flee the country, because no way no how would they ever be able to walk openly on the British streets after that revelation.

And I still hold hope the evidence will come out.

[Montegriffo]

Got any evidence for those serious allegations or just hot air?

[Speaker to Animals]

Not now, but I am fairly confident this is the explanation for the bizarre behavior perpetrated by this hospital and your Nazi government which makes the least assumptions.

Their own excuses are so full of holes it's laughable.

[Otern]

I am talking about the earlier article where they actually were harvesting baby organs without consent at that very hospital.

Oh, yeah. That's fucked up, without a doubt.

But I don't think this is what's happening now though. They'd be stupid to do it again, with the backlash they got last time. I think they honestly believe it's for that kid's best to die.

It might have been for the better if people didn't get to own their own dead bodies though. Hospitals lack a lot of organ donors, and thousands could be saved each year if bodies went to public use after death. We're all going into the ground and serve as fertilizer when we're dead anyway. Our use to the public once we're dead carries the same value as a couple days worth of cow shit. Well functioning organs literally rot in the ground, because of feelings.

But then again, I'm a hypocrite, as I'm not an organ donor, and don't plan to be one either. Maybe mine, and other's reluctance to be organ donors stems from the fear of doctors not doing their absolute best to keep us alive if an accident happens, and our death could mean plenty of others could live. Maybe if there's some system in place, where doctors could only see if you were an organ donor after death, people would be more prone to becoming organ donors. Or if everyone by default were organ donors, but they could opt out of donating organs. Or if organ donors themselves were being prioritized in receiving organs themselves.

[Otern]

btw, this poll needs an "I don't know"-option. Because that's how I really feel about this whole ordeal.