Trump's Five Million

[brewster]

A hybrid system would provide redundancy that would make defrauding the system much more difficult since you'd both need to hack the machines (probably the counters) *and* somehow sabotage the physical ballots to match what you did electronically. It would be like redundant flight control systems where you have fly-by-wire coupled with physical cables and rods. That's the most robust way to do it.

Hybrid isn't new, it's as old as hanging chads. But it's still obviously the best. It's the counting software that's the weak link. There are a number of open source systems out there now, but getting them adopted is the problem. Here's a rather radical one that uses block chains for security.

Https://followmyvote.com/

With the ability to audit the ballot box and watch elections progress in real time, Follow My Vote's platform offers unparalleled electoral transparency.

Let’s face it. No one except for election officials really know what happens to your vote once you cast it, so it’s not surprising that more and more research is showing that citizens don’t vote because they don’t believe their votes count. Understandably, these frustrated voters are losing confidence in our democratic system.

Enter Follow My Vote’s online voting platform. Using a webcam and a government-issued ID, voters can remotely and securely log in and vote for their desired candidates. After they’ve selected their candidates, they can use their unique Voter ID to quite literally open the ballot box, locate their vote, and check that it is both present and correct. Additionally, voters can then watch the election progress in real time as votes are cast. What’s more, Follow My Vote’s platform allows for an indecisive voter to return to the system and switch his or her votes at any time before the election deadline closes.

The ability to change your vote, coupled with the ability to observe the election in real time, has major implications for the current two-party system. Now, voters who would like to vote for a third party candidate are likely not to for fear of wasting their vote on a candidate who is not likely to win. In some instances, voting for a third party draws votes from one of the two dominant parties that has similar views and increases the chances the opposition party will win. With the ability to change their vote, voters can counteract this vote-splitting effect and shake up the current two-party system.

[Fife]

It's almost like the government is inherently hackable.

Crazy talk.

[TheReal_ND]

as old as hanging chads

A hanging chad refers to a small piece of paper intended to be punched from a larger sheet of paper, but still remaining attached. The term came into general public discourse during the 2000 United States (US) presidential election when unusually close voting numbers resulted in a hand recount of thousands of ballots in Florida.

Huh. And all this time I thought they meant deburring.

[Fife]

Code for burrhead, you fucking racist.

[The Conservative]

There is no reason I couldn't print off a million paper ballots and swap them out. Or just pay the guy that reports the total to the media.

Actually, there is, each ballot in Mass at least is barcoded, if it doesn't coincide with the proper batch when scanned, the vote is invalid due to tampering.

[brewster]

There is no reason I couldn't print off a million paper ballots and swap them out. Or just pay the guy that reports the total to the media.

Actually, there is, each ballot in Mass at least is barcoded, if it doesn't coincide with the proper batch when scanned, the vote is invalid due to tampering.

There, problem solved with 1970's technology. Imagine what we could do with 90's tech!!!

[Speaker to Animals]

There is no reason I couldn't print off a million paper ballots and swap them out. Or just pay the guy that reports the total to the media.

Actually, there is, each ballot in Mass at least is barcoded, if it doesn't coincide with the proper batch when scanned, the vote is invalid due to tampering.

There, problem solved with 1970's technology. Imagine what we could do with 90's tech!!!

More data.




Interestingly, the machine that prints records the vote and prints it on the ballot could scan the code and keep track of it, coupled with the electronic vote record. Then, if there is a recount, you should be able to trace individual ballots back to specific machines, and you'd more easily be able to catch cheating, since you'd know how many ballots a machine processed.

[clubgop]

With the ability to audit the ballot box and watch elections progress in real time, Follow My Vote's platform offers unparalleled electoral transparency.

Let’s face it. No one except for election officials really know what happens to your vote once you cast it, so it’s not surprising that more and more research is showing that citizens don’t vote because they don’t believe their votes count. Understandably, these frustrated voters are losing confidence in our democratic system.

Enter Follow My Vote’s online voting platform. Using a webcam and a government-issued ID, voters can remotely and securely log in and vote for their desired candidates. After they’ve selected their candidates, they can use their unique Voter ID to quite literally open the ballot box, locate their vote, and check that it is both present and correct. Additionally, voters can then watch the election progress in real time as votes are cast. What’s more, Follow My Vote’s platform allows for an indecisive voter to return to the system and switch his or her votes at any time before the election deadline closes.

The ability to change your vote, coupled with the ability to observe the election in real time, has major implications for the current two-party system. Now, voters who would like to vote for a third party candidate are likely not to for fear of wasting their vote on a candidate who is not likely to win. In some instances, voting for a third party draws votes from one of the two dominant parties that has similar views and increases the chances the opposition party will win. With the ability to change their vote, voters can counteract this vote-splitting effect and shake up the current two-party system.

This. That whole thing, every word of it, every syllable, ... needs to die in a fire right the fuck now. The fuckery involved, there would be no end.

[brewster]

With the ability to audit the ballot box and watch elections progress in real time, Follow My Vote's platform offers unparalleled electoral transparency.

Let’s face it. No one except for election officials really know what happens to your vote once you cast it, so it’s not surprising that more and more research is showing that citizens don’t vote because they don’t believe their votes count. Understandably, these frustrated voters are losing confidence in our democratic system.

Enter Follow My Vote’s online voting platform. Using a webcam and a government-issued ID, voters can remotely and securely log in and vote for their desired candidates. After they’ve selected their candidates, they can use their unique Voter ID to quite literally open the ballot box, locate their vote, and check that it is both present and correct. Additionally, voters can then watch the election progress in real time as votes are cast. What’s more, Follow My Vote’s platform allows for an indecisive voter to return to the system and switch his or her votes at any time before the election deadline closes.

The ability to change your vote, coupled with the ability to observe the election in real time, has major implications for the current two-party system. Now, voters who would like to vote for a third party candidate are likely not to for fear of wasting their vote on a candidate who is not likely to win. In some instances, voting for a third party draws votes from one of the two dominant parties that has similar views and increases the chances the opposition party will win. With the ability to change their vote, voters can counteract this vote-splitting effect and shake up the current two-party system.

This. That whole thing, every word of it, every syllable, ... needs to die in a fire right the fuck now. The fuckery involved, there would be no end.

I admit this is not my favorite plan, but it shows some creativity. Almost anything would be better than the awfulness we have now. The idea that anyone has to wait more than 10 minutes to vote is abominable. And that is the result of choices that have been deliberately made, which is unconscionable.There's no reason someone can't walk into a booth, insert their USA ID card, be confirmed by facial recognition, vote, and be out of there in minutes. On the other hand, the above scenario of remote login is certainly more secure than any of the early voting schemes currently in use across the country.

[Martin Hash]

Washington & Oregon haven't had Polling Places or Ballot Boxes in years.