THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!

[jbird4049]

It would be a lot more sensible, and a lot less extreme.

A lot poorer too.

Unlikely, California benefits way more from free trade with the rest of the states than the other way around. Yeah, California is the biggest dog in the pack, but it is still only 1 of 50. Most of what California produces are luxury items. California doesn't produce coal, it doesn't produce oil, it has a single car plant. If California broke off from the US without a good trade agreement, its economy would collapse almost immediately.

Anyone who thinks California leaving would significantly hurt the US economy does not understand the economics of the situation. Sure you would see recession, but it would recover. Most businesses and individuals would find themselves with more economic freedom with fewer regulations to follow.

It would hurt California, no question. As it holds 12% of the population, ~18% of the Federal government's revenue, almost all of the Summer fruits, and vegetables, has 5% of the national oil production, and by itself is the 8th largest economy in the world, the rest of the country would also suffer.

Also most of the stuff coming from Asia comes via Long Beach and Oakland.

And you dope fiends, and winos, don't forget California also is a major supplier.

[Ex-California]

A lot poorer too.

Unlikely, California benefits way more from free trade with the rest of the states than the other way around. Yeah, California is the biggest dog in the pack, but it is still only 1 of 50. Most of what California produces are luxury items. California doesn't produce coal, it doesn't produce oil, it has a single car plant. If California broke off from the US without a good trade agreement, its economy would collapse almost immediately.

Anyone who thinks California leaving would significantly hurt the US economy does not understand the economics of the situation. Sure you would see recession, but it would recover. Most businesses and individuals would find themselves with more economic freedom with fewer regulations to follow.

It would hurt California, no question. As it holds 12% of the population, ~18% of the Federal government's revenue, almost all of the Summer fruits, and vegetables, has 5% of the national oil production, and by itself is the 8th largest economy in the world, the rest of the country would also suffer.

Also most of the stuff coming from Asia comes via Long Beach and Oakland.

And you dope fiends, and winos, don't forget California also is a major supplier.

Yeah, despite what all of the uninformed, anti-Californians and Calexit Fanatics think the result of CA leaving would be neither armageddon or utopia. It would not prove to conservatives that a CA's progressive policies are untenable and it would not prove to CA progressives that their way is the way of the future. It would hurt both CA and the US but both would survive, albeit somewhat weakened

[The Conservative]

It would be a lot more sensible, and a lot less extreme.

A lot poorer too.

Unlikely, California benefits way more from free trade with the rest of the states than the other way around. Yeah, California is the biggest dog in the pack, but it is still only 1 of 50. Most of what California produces are luxury items. California doesn't produce coal, it doesn't produce oil, it has a single car plant. If California broke off from the US without a good trade agreement, its economy would collapse almost immediately.

Anyone who thinks California leaving would significantly hurt the US economy does not understand the economics of the situation. Sure you would see recession, but it would recover. Most businesses and individuals would find themselves with more economic freedom with fewer regulations to follow.

I've been saying that since the beginning...

[GloryofGreece]

America is more like Carthage (commercial empire) than Rome (Republic of virtue). No has given a fuck about much but themselves since the Vietnam era really. People only really care about shit that directly effects them. Very few people can care about abstract things much less do something about it. Most Americans make less than 50K a year and are struggling to pay rent and other "essentials". Americans spend their time jerking off, watching Netflix, and drinking beer or doing shitty drugs. We have amused ourselves to death. Thats about all we "care" about when we have free time. Or, if you have a family you spend time with them and keep it moving. Either way no one has time to give a shit about Syria, Iraq, etc. etc.

[jbird4049]

America is more like Carthage (commercial empire) than Rome (Republic of virtue). No has given a fuck about much but themselves since the Vietnam era really. People only really care about shit that directly effects them. Very few people can care about abstract things much less do something about it. Most Americans make less than 50K a year and are struggling to pay rent and other "essentials". Americans spend their time jerking off, watching Netflix, and drinking beer or doing shitty drugs. We have amused ourselves to death. Thats about all we "care" about when we have free time. Or, if you have a family you spend time with them and keep it moving. Either way no one has time to give a shit about Syria, Iraq, etc. etc.

I'm afraid that they might start revolting instead of giving a heck. One needs a job and money to "amuse ourselves to death."

[Okeefenokee]

we goin to lowes or what?

[jbird4049]

we goin to lowes or what?

Building a bunker?

[Okeefenokee]

we goin to lowes or what?

Building a bunker?

[The Conservative]

America is more like Carthage (commercial empire) than Rome (Republic of virtue). No has given a fuck about much but themselves since the Vietnam era really. People only really care about shit that directly effects them. Very few people can care about abstract things much less do something about it. Most Americans make less than 50K a year and are struggling to pay rent and other "essentials". Americans spend their time jerking off, watching Netflix, and drinking beer or doing shitty drugs. We have amused ourselves to death. Thats about all we "care" about when we have free time. Or, if you have a family you spend time with them and keep it moving. Either way no one has time to give a shit about Syria, Iraq, etc. etc.

I'm afraid that they might start revolting instead of giving a heck. One needs a job and money to "amuse ourselves to death."

No, we need to do something... and people think, 'Oh, we just will sit on our asses going to the beach, etc..." Yeah... not.

Oh, also, people give a shit, but the bills don't pay themselves.

[TheReal_ND]

This kills the civic nationalist