Jeff Sessions Comfirmation Hearing

[SuburbanFarmer]

Just takes a couple of Smittys sitting around in a legal department to justify it. Keep your blind faith if you must.

Quoting 'The Law' in a war zone, just after explaining that there isn't any. It's a waste of my energy to fight that kind of dogma.

[Smitty-48]

Fucking nonsense. This is exactly how murder is justified. Apparently our 'limited engagement' is now Total War, and there is no boundary.

It simply does not matter that the Taliban were present in the hospital - that does not justify bombing the building. There is no justification for killing all of the doctors, patients, and civilians that are inside it, just to kill some tribal fighters more quickly. Absolute garbage. All types of people are in a hospital at any given moment - and I have no doubt that this was the same. There were pregnant women, infants, children, old people on life support - whatever. Yet we can't tolerate letting some moron with a fucking rifle exist a moment longer than necessary. Insanity.

Would it be so inconceivable to contact the DWB staff inside, or their leadership and warn them? Offer even a chance to save themselves or stop attacks emanating from the building? Also, I have yet to hear any claim that there were any attacks coming from said hospital. Monstrous.

I think you're confused, the laws of armed conflict, are not the laws against armed conflict, the laws of armed conflict were written, to facilitate armed conflict not prevent it, nobody ever said pregnant women, infants, children, and old people on life support, would not be maimed and/or killed in the process of armed conflict. Is war monstrous? Of course, whoever said it wasn't?

Murder is justified in war, that's what war is; state sanctioned mass muder, and in fact, the laws of armed conflict; are the sanctioning statutes.

Can you lawfully murder pregnant women, infants, children, and old people on life support, in a war? Of course you can, it's just a question of how, where, when, and why.

[Fife]

The kinds of people who deny the reality of what war is and what it means are the same people who let the state get our kids killed in useless wars for the benefit of the state.

War is not like the civil motions docket down at the circuit court.

[Smitty-48]

The kinds of people who deny the reality of what war is and what it means are the same people who let the state get our kids killed in useless wars for the benefit of the state.

And Grumpy Cat is the same people; who spit on the troops when they came home from Vietnam.

[Smitty-48]

edit; double post.

[Smitty-48]

Here's the hospital in question by the way, just before the incident, as you can see; not marked as a hospital, no red cross/cresent on the roof, which is a requirement for identification from the air;

[TheReal_ND]

Looks like a concentration camp with gas chambers...

[Smitty-48]

And just for comparison, this is what properly marked in a war zone looks like;

[Smitty-48]

Just takes a couple of Smittys sitting around in a legal department to justify it. Keep your blind faith if you must.

Quoting 'The Law' in a war zone, just after explaining that there isn't any. It's a waste of my energy to fight that kind of dogma.

You're the one who invoked the law, I'm just telling you what it says;

"The protection to which fixed establishments and mobile medical units of the Medical Service are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy."

"The responsible authorities shall ensure that the said medical establishments and units are, as far as possible, situated in such a manner that attacks against military objectives cannot imperil their safety."

"Parties to the conflict shall take the necessary steps, in so far as military considerations permit, to make the distinctive emblems indicating medical units and establishments clearly visible to the enemy land, air or naval forces, in order to obviate the possibility of any hostile action."

The USAF AC-130 engaged by mistake, but the war criminals were a) the Taliban who were using the hospital for acts harmful to their enemy, b) the authorities responsible for the hospital, Doctors Without Borders, who situated it in a manner which placed it in peril against military objectives and failed to mark it clearly for air forces to obviate the possibility of hostile action.

You know the Taliban follow no rules, you know they will use the hospital as a shield from behind which to attack the Americans, you know that the Americans will use air power to defend themselves, and yet you don't put a big red cross/crescent on the roof which anybody who has ever run a hospital in a war zone knows is a must?

No, I'm not going to charge the American crew with war crimes, if that's how you run your military hospital, which it is by default, when you're treating combatants in a war zone.

You may not invoke the laws of armed conflict as a shield, when you are not yourself adhering to them, if you don't think the rules apply to you, then don't run a hospital in a war zone which is treating combatants who are party to, if you get blown away while you're running a de facto military hospital in a war zone, without knowing what your duties and repsonsibilities are, and so fail to live up to them, don't come crying after, the only ones you have to blame, are yourselves, own your shit, Doctors Without Borders.

You're a bunch of fuckin' dillitantes, bumbling around in war zones, making yourselves into targets by sitting in the crossfire unmarked, and then trying to gin up a phony baloney case against the Americans, because you oppose US policy, are hostile to the US military, while being sympathetic to the Taliban, so get real.

What? Grumpy Cat Face al-Alawki, who is openly hostile to the US military and clearly sympathetic to the enemies of, is apt to pile on with this blatant information warfare propaganda campaign being run collaboratively by international leftist organizations and the Taliban? Well, surprise, surprise, never saw that one coming, eh troops?

[SuburbanFarmer]

The kinds of people who deny the reality of what war is and what it means are the same people who let the state get our kids killed in useless wars for the benefit of the state.

War is not like the civil motions docket down at the circuit court.

If it's a "war, then where are the troops? Why haven't we nuked the shit out of it? Was it sanctioned by the US Congress?