Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

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Like, everybody knows that all the entrenched interests in Washington are in bed with Tel Aviv, and that is while Mossad is commiting espionage against the United States on a routine basis, and Tel Aviv is no more privileged than Moscow is in any statutory sense, but notice how the FBI conveniently never investigates that, in over fifty years of Tel Aviv wagging the dog in Washington? I mean, ca'mon.

Because the US is the ally of Israel. Because of Aipac. All that Judeo-Christian heritage and stuff... And the religious loonies in the US for whom Israel is so special as God's chosen people.

But that FBI never investigates??? It's very rare that an American has been charged for spying for Israel.

But it has happened.

Jay Pollard was too friendly with the Israelis. Went to jail, actually for life:


Which of course got Israel-lovers to try to get him to be freed:


So he's on parole! Netanyahu has asked a parole waiver for him from the Trump administration.

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Like for seven frikkin' decades now, up to and including the Israelis taking direct hostile military action against a US Navy warship in the Med, I mean, jeebus, if it's Isreal, they can literally get away with murder.

USS Liberty?

Now there's a genuine conspiracy theory.

In my view, a totally possible theory is that if things had gone bad for Israel, LBJ needed a "Gulf of Tonkin"-incident to justify US involvement. But no need for US involvement (other than supplies), hence just a classic FUBAR situation.

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Jonathan Pollard's activities were not protected by the first amendment, he was a Top Secret clearance analyst who worked at CIA and then at the Navy Field Intelligence Office, who passed classified information to the Isreali Mossad, so that is espionage, but neither Paul Manafort nor Carter Page are American intelligence operatives who have passed state secrets to the SVR, so again, just shows the absurd fallacies this supposed "inquiry" is actually based on.

No espionage. No treason. No state secrets passed. Being "in bed with", in a poltical sense; no crime in fact.

And yeah, I like that Roger Stone is a shit disturber, and I know he plays rough and dirty, but still no crime in fact, if I thought Stone and Manafort were spies for the SVR, I would say so, but quite obviously they are not, and quite obviously this is a witch hunt to try to get them, and it's not much of a conspiracy, since it's all in plain sight.

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Jonathan Pollard's activities were not protected by the first amendment, he was a Top Secret clearance analyst who worked at CIA and then at the Navy Field Intelligence Office, who passed classified information to the Isreali Mossad, so that is espionage, but neither Paul Manafort nor Carter Page are American intelligence operatives who have passed state secrets to the SVR, so again, just shows the absurd fallacies this supposed "inquiry" is actually based on.

No espionage. No treason. No state secrets passed. Being "in bed with", in a poltical sense; no crime in fact.

Hence if some person on a high political Place got money from North Korea and tried to alter US policy on North Korea, that's something that the Intel services don't have any right to look into? It's just about state secrets?

Besides, Russia and Israel aren't same thing. As isn't North Korea and Canada for the US.

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Jonathan Pollard's activities were not protected by the first amendment, he was a Top Secret clearance analyst who worked at CIA and then at the Navy Field Intelligence Office, who passed classified information to the Isreali Mossad, so that is espionage, but neither Paul Manafort nor Carter Page are American intelligence operatives who have passed state secrets to the SVR, so again, just shows the absurd fallacies this supposed "inquiry" is actually based on.

No espionage. No treason. No state secrets passed. Being "in bed with", in a poltical sense; no crime in fact.

Hence if some person on a high political Place got money from North Korea and tried to alter US policy on North Korea, that's something that the Intel services don't have any right to look into? It's just about state secrets?

Well, excuse me, but the DNC's dirty laundry in their email accounts, is not protected by executive order as a classified state secret, if you have some evidence that Paul Manafort, Carter Page, or Roger Stone are passing classified state secrets to the Russians, present that now.

As to North Korea, unlike Russia, a state of war exists between the United States and North Korea, the North Koreans are a declared enemy of the United States, the Russians however, are not.


So yeah, you can lobby on behalf of Isreal, you can lobby on behalf of Saudi Arabia, and in the same manner you could lobby for the Russians too, but no, you can't lobby for North Korea, got anymore apples to oranges fallacies in your little bag of fallacies there?

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Rather funny of you to think that lobbying for Israel or for Russia is totally the same thing. As if an Americans mingling with Canadian officials would be same as mingling with Russians. Allies and friendly nations are a bit different from Russia.

Well, Trump surely was so clueless that he didn't understand that the FBI had to look into this. That Russian help is similar to some American Superpac.

(Besides, Israel doesn't need Mossad, they already have an American organization called the AIPAC.)

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An yet Mossad is spying on the United States as a routine, because really, AIPAC and Tel Aviv are not the same thing, AIPAC doesn't report to Mossad nor vice versa, and contrary to your assertion, Isreal is no more an ally of the United States than Russia is.

Canada is signatory to several formal alliances with the United States, to include Five Eyes, but Isreal, actually has no formal alliance with the United States, so over here in Canada, that's a US ally, over there in Russia and Isreal; not actually, Isreal no more an ally than Russia, Russia no more an enemy than Isreal.

Russia, Isreal. Canada. Two of these countries are not American allies, and both of those countries engage in espionage against the United States, one of these countries is an American ally which is in Five Eyes and does not spy on the United States, see the apples and oranges there, folks?

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An yet Mossad is spying on the United States as a routine, because really, AIPAC and Tel Aviv are not the same thing, AIPAC doesn't report to Mossad nor vice versa, and contrary to your assertion, Isreal is no more an ally of the United States than Russia is.

Canada is signatory to several formal alliances with the United States, to include Five Eyes, but Isreal, actually has no formal alliance with the United States, so over here in Canada, that's a US ally, over there in Russia and Isreal; not actually, Isreal no more an ally than Russia, Russia no more an enemy than Isreal.

Russia, Isreal. Canada. Two of these countries are not American allies, and both of those countries engage in espionage against the United States, one of these countries is an American ally which is in Five Eyes and does not spy on the United States, see the apples and oranges there, folks?

Depends on the executive. You are right. Obama and Netanyahu was just the same as Obama and Putin.

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An yet Mossad is spying on the United States as a routine, because really, AIPAC and Tel Aviv are not the same thing, AIPAC doesn't report to Mossad nor vice versa, and contrary to your assertion, Isreal is no more an ally of the United States than Russia is.

Canada is signatory to several formal alliances with the United States, to include Five Eyes, but Isreal, actually has no formal alliance with the United States, so over here in Canada, that's a US ally, over there in Russia and Isreal; not actually, Isreal no more an ally than Russia, Russia no more an enemy than Isreal.

Russia, Isreal. Canada. Two of these countries are not American allies, and both of those countries engage in espionage against the United States, one of these countries is an American ally which is in Five Eyes and does not spy on the United States, see the apples and oranges there, folks?

Depends on the executive. You are right. Obama and Netanyahu was just the same as Obama and Putin.

Well, with the current executive, it is quite clear that some partisan hacks in Washington and the media are trying to assert Russia to be more of an enemy than Isreal is, when in fact, neither Isreal nor Russia are enemies, nor are they allies.

Russia enemy, Isreal ally, this is entirely a fabrication, seemingly from the low information media, which only gets a pass in America, because most Americans don't really understand the nature of those designations and/or simply don't question the pap they are fed about it, one would have to guess.

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An yet Mossad is spying on the United States as a routine, because really, AIPAC and Tel Aviv are not the same thing, AIPAC doesn't report to Mossad nor vice versa, and contrary to your assertion, Isreal is no more an ally of the United States than Russia is.

Canada is signatory to several formal alliances with the United States, to include Five Eyes, but Isreal, actually has no formal alliance with the United States, so over here in Canada, that's a US ally, over there in Russia and Isreal; not actually, Isreal no more an ally than Russia, Russia no more an enemy than Isreal.

Russia, Isreal. Canada. Two of these countries are not American allies, and both of those countries engage in espionage against the United States, one of these countries is an American ally which is in Five Eyes and does not spy on the United States, see the apples and oranges there, folks?

The US hasn't deployed it's armed forces into Russia to protect Russia. But it has with Israel (last time I guess during Desert Storm, perhaps later also). Russian Air Force doesn't train in the United States. But Israeli Air Force sometimes does. Russia and the US don't hold military excersizes. But the US and Israel do. The US hasn't prepositioned military hardware in Russia. But has done that in Israel. Russia doesn't get aid from the US. Israel does. And the list goes on and on...

So bit strange apples and oranges you have there.