Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

[SuburbanFarmer]

What?? They tap everything from the Russians? Ok, here's what we do... spin it like I was personally targeted. yeah, make a big scene about how they wanted to spy on me alone.... Yeah, it's all Obama. He did it himself, ordered it from his desk, whatever they'll eat it up. This'll be great, ok.

[Speaker to Animals]

So there it is. GCF is really tits up for the surveillance state -- unless Trump controls it.

[pineapplemike]

LOL

Clapper: "Possible" That Trump Was Recorded On Manafort Wiretap, "Conceivable"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... vable.html

DON LEMON, CNN HOST: Is it possible the president was picked up in a conversation with Paul Manafort?

JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER DNI: It's certainly conceivable.

LEMON: Is it likely?

CLAPPER: I can't say. I wouldn't want to go there, but I will say it's possible.

*obligatory link to http://www.hasjamesclapperbeenindictedyet.com/

[SuburbanFarmer]

So there it is. GCF is really tits up for the surveillance state -- unless Trump controls it.

No, clown. He's distracting from the real issue, with this martyr complex for attention - as he's done for 2 years now.

[Penner]

What?? They tap everything from the Russians? Ok, here's what we do... spin it like I was personally targeted. yeah, make a big scene about how they wanted to spy on me alone.... Yeah, it's all Obama. He did it himself, ordered it from his desk, whatever they'll eat it up. This'll be great, ok.

[ssu]

I don't think there's anything strange here

Of course you don't.

Big ole nothingburger, not even any mustard on it.

Because the goddam FBI's mission is to look at what the Russians are up to. Any self respecting counter-intelligence unit would keep taps here.

You don't seem to get it. Some Manafort and Carter Page are quite easy pickings here as they are totally in bed with the Russians.

[Smitty-48]

I don't think there's anything strange here

Of course you don't.

Big ole nothingburger, not even any mustard on it.

Because the goddam FBI's mission is to look at what the Russians are up to. Any self respecting counter-intelligence unit would keep taps here.

You don't seem to get it. Some Manafort and Carter Page are quite easy pickings here as they are totally in bed with the Russians.

What's the charge again? "Being in bed with" is no crime in America, and as such, the FBI seems to be on a blatant and partisan politically motivated fishing expedition for one faction over another, which, if so, would be the only actual criminal activity in play, since the FBI is supposedly barred from doing that by solemn oath to the constitution. Who is committing treason against the consitution again? There's nothing in there that bars you from being in bed with whoever in order to get the Republicans elected over the Democrats, that's called politics, same as it ever was.

There's no treason to see here, since both Manafort and Page are protected by the first amendment, there's no evidence of espionage, they weren't even privy to state secrets, there's no state of war between the United States and Russia, so there's nothing barring them from doing business with the Russians neither, just shouting "in bed with" is nothing more than ad hominem in lieu of asserting a valid charge.

Perhaps there are people in Finland, who, for their own narrow interests, don't like Americans being "in bed with" Russians, but it's not actually a crime in of itself.

I'm sure there are Jews in Isreal who would prefer Americans not to be in bed with the Saudis, and Arabs in Saudi Arabia who would like to keep the Americans from being in bed with Tel Aviv, but neither of those relationships are any more criminal than being in bed with Russians, America is supposedly a free country, absent a declared state of war, you're free to get into bed with whomever you please.

When are you going to just concede the obvious, that this is just a witch hunt to go after Trump & Co, on behalf the Democrat and GOP party establishments and associated entrenched interests in Washington, because Trump was not supposed to win, and he embarassed them publicly in doing so? To wit, are you ever going to get real or are you just going to ignore the elephant in the room?

Even you think Trump is bad for America and a total clown, obvious witchhunt is obvious, regardless of who it is declaring to be a witch.

[Smitty-48]

Like, everybody knows that all the entrenched interests in Washington are in bed with Tel Aviv, and that is while Mossad is commiting espionage against the United States on a routine basis, and Tel Aviv is no more privileged than Moscow is in any statutory sense, but notice how the FBI conveniently never investigates that, in over fifty years of Tel Aviv wagging the dog in Washington? I mean, ca'mon.

[ssu]

What's the charge again? "Being in bed with" is no crime in America, and as such, the FBI seems to be on a blatant and partisan politically motivated fishing expedition for one faction over another, which, if so, would be the only actual criminal activity in play, since the FBI is supposedly barred from doing that by solemn oath to the constitution. Who is committing treason against the consitution again? There's nothing in there that bars you from being in bed with whoever in order to get the Republicans elected over the Democrats, that's called politics, same as it ever was.

There's no treason to see here, since both Manafort and Page are protected by the first amendment, there's no evidence of espionage, they weren't even privy to state secrets, there's no state of war between the United States and Russia, so there's nothing barring them from doing business with the Russians neither, just shouting "in bed with" is nothing more than ad hominem in lieu of asserting a valid charge.

There's ample things to start a counterintelligence inquiry. Period. Would the actions come down to treason or any kind of conviction is another thing. Intelligence services operate quite the same.

Now if Russian spies are secretly recorded in a totally different sting operation talking about one Carter Page as an eager recruited agent, then any intel service would check out the person on just what kind of intel he has given to them. That's not the same to throw the guy in jail. But if then the guy pops up in a presidential campaign... one might check up the thing.

Same with Manafort. Add to that the "I love it!" responses from the Trump team, the Moscow Trump tower Project and maybe it's worth looking into...

And in the end all of this is Trump's own doing. As Bannon said, biggest political error was to fire Comey (because of the Russia investigation, as Trump admitted), because that got Mueller in the picture. Otherwise the Russia thing would have gone away with an answer of "Yep, they had an intel operation in the 2016 elections" and nothing else.

[Smitty-48]

Except, even a half blind retarded mule would notice that against whom and why a counterintelligence investigation is opened, is entirely arbitrary to whichever entrenched interests are pulling the strings inside the beltway, if being in bed with quasi-hostile foreign entities was a counterintelligence concern in of itself, they should have all been perped walked a long time ago for being in bed with the Zionists in Isreal, but again, notice how the FBI conveniently overloooks that?

Like for seven frikkin' decades now, up to and including the Israelis taking direct hostile military action against a US Navy warship in the Med, I mean, jeebus, if it's Isreal, they can literally get away with murder.

Like, as if the FBI picks its targets in an impartial manner, I mean, ca'mon I said, when are you gonna get real?