California Hate Thread

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by AverageJoe » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:36 pm

Homelessness in L.A. is a catastrophe in motion, and our leaders are largely to blame

$669 million this year poured into combating homelessness...yet homelessness climbs 16%. The author of this piece is an example of someone who likes to point fingers while he ignores the real issues. They are living in a self denial bubble.

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Fife » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:42 pm

AverageJoe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:36 pm
Homelessness in L.A. is a catastrophe in motion, and our leaders are largely to blame

$669 million this year poured into combating homelessness...yet homelessness climbs 16%. The author of this piece is an example of someone who likes to point fingers while he ignores the real issues. They are living in a self denial bubble.
Back then, I wrote about a musician with a deep talent and an even deeper mental illness. He suffered the daily torments so many thousands of homeless people still suffer. One night, as he prepared to sleep on the pavement, he reached for two sticks. On one he had written “Beethoven,” on the other, “Brahms.” When the rats came out of the sewers, he told me, he tapped Beethoven and Brahms, and the rats scattered.

Now we have rats at City Hall and new evidence of a connection to several nearby homeless encampments.

It’s naive of me, I know, but I’d like to believe that the disturbing new numbers will drive a greater sense of urgency, that the governor and legislators and local officials will move faster and more creatively, that more residents will step up rather than stand in the way, that we might one day have a president with a heart and a brain or even just a clue.

We should, here in a place where 60,000 human beings have fallen through the cracks, be compassionate and angry enough to demand nothing less.


Muh Beethoven.

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by C-Mag » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:47 pm

AverageJoe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:36 pm
Homelessness in L.A. is a catastrophe in motion, and our leaders are largely to blame

$669 million this year poured into combating homelessness...yet homelessness climbs 16%. The author of this piece is an example of someone who likes to point fingers while he ignores the real issues. They are living in a self denial bubble.
The homeless get better subsidies on the left coast, so that's where people head. They are homeless, not stupid. They are essentially all fighting over the best street corner to panhandle.

I would like to thank liberal left coast cities for fixing the homeless situation elsewhere in the country. :D

+1 on the article. I don't agree with all of it, but the conclusion is correct, the leaders own the bulk of the blame.
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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by AverageJoe » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:11 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:47 pm
AverageJoe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:36 pm
Homelessness in L.A. is a catastrophe in motion, and our leaders are largely to blame

$669 million this year poured into combating homelessness...yet homelessness climbs 16%. The author of this piece is an example of someone who likes to point fingers while he ignores the real issues. They are living in a self denial bubble.
The homeless get better subsidies on the left coast, so that's where people head. They are homeless, not stupid. They are essentially all fighting over the best street corner to panhandle.

I would like to thank liberal left coast cities for fixing the homeless situation elsewhere in the country. :D

+1 on the article. I don't agree with all of it, but the conclusion is correct, the leaders own the bulk of the blame.
They get to park wherever they want on the street, toss their empty needles wherever and get free new ones to litter and get high with. Free food, free healthcare, panhandle all day, shit wherever you want (the city will clean it up), and no obligation left for you to fulfill then yeah, they created the socialist paradise. My problem with it is California (and most other states) do not address the real issues affecting homelessness. Creating homes is great but all you are doing is showing them into a 900sq ft plot and nothing else. Mental Health Care (Most important issue in my opinion), drug rehabilitation, jobs, and job training, education, etc take a largely (again in my opinion) secondary role if not nothing more than a platitudinal mention in most city proclamations to combatting homelessness. Finding homeless homes is only a mere piece in the thousand piece puzzle and idiots like the author show that they don't give two shits about. They are too busy throwing in their TDS knocks in to slam the President and the rich to say somehow this is their fault and not to the fact that LA county, and California for that matter, has essentially taxed and regulated itself into the corner with no way out (that they can see).

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Fife » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:27 pm

Whatever we subsidize we get more of.

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Post by C-Mag » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:32 pm

Homeless and perpetually poor is an extremely hard problem to solve. I've read accounts back to the 1850s of do gooders trying to address the slums in NYC. They too built low income housing, it didn't work.


Mental health is something our country refuses to deal with. States destroyed their insane asylums because the press is always bad. No good way to date to deal with some of these people. We can keep them on meds, and for some that works. But I don't know how much of a solution it is. I personally think the one of the most effective things for the poor were poor farms. You got a roof over your head and meals, but you worked for it and made the farm and gardens. Abuses made the system go away.
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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by AverageJoe » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:51 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:32 pm
I personally think the one of the most effective things for the poor were poor farms. You got a roof over your head and meals, but you worked for it and made the farm and gardens. Abuses made the system go away.
Abuses yes, but also the fact that you have to enact rules at these organizations and many homeless will have nothing to do with that. We have a number of programs in my local areas that work to help homeless but nearly none of them are used by the homeless. Why? Because they restrict alcohol, drugs, have curfews and other basic rules. Most of them try it once then realize they can just get arrested, stay in jail for a night or two, get fed and a warm place to sleep then go right back to what they were doing without having to pay a cent.

There has to be an incentive to not return to the street and break the cycle.

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Hastur » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:03 pm

It's a total disaster. I don't know what it will take anymore.

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:26 pm

We should mimic their success.