The Mess

[Smitty-48]

Upper Canadian Air Superiority Porn

Avro CF-105 Arrow, Downsview, Toronto, Ontario.







A collosal waste of money rightly cancelled, yet a sexy beast none the less. One can be a fiscal conservative, and still get a chubb dog on for her. Better as an aesthetic than she would have been as an actual weapons platform in any case.

[Montegriffo]

The most powerful warship the Royal Navy ever built in the age of sail, was Canadian.

Let's talk about game changers, HMS Dreadnought, so revolutionary they named a whole class of warships after her.

[Smitty-48]

Let's talk about game changers, HMS Dreadnought, so revolutionary they named a whole class of warships after her.

Launched in 1906, never fired a shot in anger, missed most of the First World War in drydock, sold for scrap in 1919.

[Montegriffo]

Let's talk about game changers, HMS Dreadnought, so revolutionary they named a whole class of warships after her.

Launched in 1906, never fired a shot in anger,

Never had too, complete supremacy means nobody is going to take you on.

Should have preserved her alongside HMS Victory.

[Smitty-48]

Let's talk about game changers, HMS Dreadnought, so revolutionary they named a whole class of warships after her.

Launched in 1906, never fired a shot in anger,

Never had too, complete supremacy means nobody is going to take you on.

The Huns came out to play at Jutland, but HMS Dreadnought was in drydock during its perpetual refit, and so missed that battle too. Good thing too, since Gerry put such a whuppin' on the Dreadnoughts at Jutland, if only he had persued, he might have broken the blockade a Scapa Flow.

[Montegriffo]

.....and which ships did Kaiser Bill copy? The Dreadnoughts of the Royal Navy.
Jutland was a draw but it meant the Hun never tried to take on the Royal Navy again till WWII.
If the British hadn't stored their cordite in the corridors leading from the magazines to the guns we might have won. We made more hits on the Krauts but because their ships were able to limp home and people saw the destruction we had brought down on them the Germans perceived it as a defeat.

[Smitty-48]

Yeah, well, turns out the great scourge of the Dreadnought was the torpedo, so even Kaiser Bill's boys were too frighteneed to persue the Grand Fleet, lest they get lured right into a field of them.

As everyone recalls, the Dreadnoughts were actually a collosal boondoggle, obselete before they ever put to sea. All Jutland proved was that Dreadnoughts were far from the arm of decision, and actually rather useless.

[Montegriffo]

Not sure about that.... Sure they were obsolete by the time of the aircraft carriers but they kept Britannia ruling the seas till then.

[Smitty-48]

Not sure about that.... Sure they were obsolete by the time of the aircraft carriers but they kept Britannia ruling the seas till then.

No they didn't, the arm of decision on the high seas in defence of the Empire, was actually the Cruiser, Dreadnoughts didn't defend the realm, they just sailed up and down looking pretty.

The first true dreadnought, was this little number here, invented by the Americans, in 1952...

[Montegriffo]

Destroyers, cruisers and battleships were all the spawn of the Dreadnoughts.
Also.... from Wiki

In March 1915 Dreadnought became the only battleship confirmed to have sunk a submarine, when she rammed the German U-boat SM U-29

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Her design so thoroughly eclipsed earlier types that subsequent battleships of all nations were generically known as "dreadnoughts" and older battleships disparaged as "pre-dreadnoughts". Her very short construction time was intended to demonstrate that Britain could build an unassailable lead in the new type of battleships.[50] Her construction sparked off a naval arms race, and soon all major fleets were adding Dreadnought-like ships.