He Done Screwed The Pooch Now Boy-o's - NFL ed.

[Penner]

As if Penner doesn't know it was a bunch of SJWs and progressives tuning in to see the athletes disrespect the flag and veterans, and those viewers don't give a shit about football..

Yeah, if that is getting the NFL higher rantings then I guess maybe they will do more to court that demo?

[Speaker to Animals]

As if Penner doesn't know it was a bunch of SJWs and progressives tuning in to see the athletes disrespect the flag and veterans, and those viewers don't give a shit about football..

Yeah, if that is getting the NFL higher rantings then I guess maybe they will do more to court that demo?

How long do you think that lasts, and why even bother paying the NFL athletes millions of dollars if the only people left watching it want to see degenerates hate on America?

[ooky]

To be fair, I am searching for NFL Players Editorials on the subject.

Ed Reid wrote Sept 25th, 2017 and appears to speak for Kaepernick.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opin ... tests.html

For those of you pissed at Trump for calling them out, I ask, would we have gotten this if Trump was silent ? BHO didn't call them on it, and we didn't get written argument. On with the Reid piece.

Why do they need to be "called out" by a president for peacefully protesting?

my teammate Colin Kaepernick chose to sit on the bench during the national anthem to protest police brutality. To be honest, I didn’t notice at the time, and neither did the news media.......

(after 2 weeks)We spoke at length about many of the issues that face our community, including systemic oppression against people of color, police brutality and the criminal justice system. We also discussed how we could use our platform, provided to us by being professional athletes in the N.F.L., to speak for those who are voiceless.

After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former N.F.L. player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, the next day during the anthem as a peaceful protest. We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy.

I guess to this I would say, you found justification for something you were already doing. And why didn't this Editorial accompany it ?
Did you take into consideration how your team felt about this, the people that give you your platform?

The Constitution gives them a platform. Their talent and hard work gives them an audience that is every bit as much THEIR audience as any white player on the team.

I have too often seen our efforts belittled with statements like “He should have listened to the officer,” after watching an unarmed black person get shot, or “There is no such thing as white privilege” and “Racism ended years ago.” We know that racism and white privilege are both very much alive today.

Reid is blinded by viewing everything through race. He doesn't understand how many white people get shot every year too, and the same thing is said. He should have listened to the officer.

How am I supposed to take this seriously when 6,000 blacks are violently killed by blacks every year. Maybe I'm sick of seeing Chicago's crime and gang violence as a blight on our country. How am I supposed to take this seriously when the disparity of White on Black violence to Black on White violence is ridiculous.

It is proven that black people are disproportionately shot by police. We should ALL be getting upset with aggressive and irresponsible police tactics, which do affect people of all color, but black people demonstrably disproportionately. And black on black violence has literally NOTHING to do with this, except I suppose indirectly as it is part of what shapes the implicit bias of police officers who feel more threatened by black people and especially black men. And why do you lump all black people in together? Why aren't you incensed at the case of Philando Castile, who had done nothing wrong, in fact did everything he could to help the cop feel not threatened, was a legal gun owner, and had his head blew off with MULTIPLE shots with a little kid in the car? What does that law abiding citizen have to do with Chicago violence? He had it coming because...Chicago is a "blight" on our country?

I am nevertheless encouraged to see my colleagues and other public figures respond to the president’s remarks with solidarity with us.

That's the Fucking Problem right there. You don't understand we are all in this together. We are on the same team. You are dividing the team.
[/quote]

NO. Trump is dividing us. Its the main thing he has talent for as far as I can tell. He hammers and hammers at issues that are divisive and openly takes sides in a way that openly shows how much he literally hates or doesn't give a shit for over 1/2 the country. He cultivates a base that treats him as an infallible cult leader, then tells his base that everyone but him/them are crazy, lazy, stupid and wrong, so now that 38% of the country can now not even *listen* to what moderates or anyone to the left of moderate thinks. And he stays on this day after day after day, so that we are all just exhausted. When he loses interest on the NFL thing, which by the way is simply a lawful protest that DOESN'T MATTER in the grand scheme of actual issues he personally needs to care about, he'll start using something else to divide us. While whipping up the base and angering the rest, he also lies in a pathological manner so that even just saying, hey these are the facts of reality, becomes potentially divisive.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's actually been proven that a white male is more likely to get shot by the police than a black male when not attacking the police. This has been shown repeatedly by numerous studies in the past year.

[ooky]

As if Penner doesn't know it was a bunch of SJWs and progressives tuning in to see the athletes disrespect the flag and veterans, and those viewers don't give a shit about football..

This is as rock-stupid as the CBS lawyer saying most people who listen to country music are republicans so she wasn't upset about the shooting. To even think that democrats or liberals don't like football is just insane. I say this as the daughter and sister of two lifelong liberals who are football coaches and have both dedicated significant portions of their lives to the sport.

[Speaker to Animals]

As if Penner doesn't know it was a bunch of SJWs and progressives tuning in to see the athletes disrespect the flag and veterans, and those viewers don't give a shit about football..

This is as rock-stupid as the CBS lawyer saying most people who listen to country music are republicans so she wasn't upset about the shooting. To even think that democrats or liberals don't like football is just insane. I say this as the daughter and sister of two lifelong liberals who are football coaches and have both dedicated significant portions of their lives to the sport.

Rock stupid is the straw man you just posted.

[TheReal_ND]

Wtf? Are we being raided again?

[ooky]

It's actually been proven that a white male is more likely to get shot by the police than a black male when not attacking the police. This has been shown repeatedly by numerous studies in the past year.

White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ab82fcc0bf

I'm not sure where your data comes from, but the WaPo database is supposed to be the most complete database of police shootings.

There's also the issue of how much more often black people are stopped, and therefore put into a potential situation for things to go badly.

[TheReal_ND]

black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

They contribute a disproportionately larger share of violent crime. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Or, commit more crimes, run into police more.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's actually been proven that a white male is more likely to get shot by the police than a black male when not attacking the police. This has been shown repeatedly by numerous studies in the past year.

White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ab82fcc0bf

I'm not sure where your data comes from, but the WaPo database is supposed to be the most complete database of police shootings.

There's also the issue of how much more often black people are stopped, and therefore put into a potential situation for things to go badly.

I can show you competing studies that actually bother to normalize the data and remove examples of people attacking police officers before police officers shoot them, which is predominantly how black people get killed by police. It has been shown repeatedly that police are hesitent to shoot even aggressive black males for fear of repercussions, a fear they do not hold when they often shoot white men to death. Yet you don't see the MSM blanketing television and blogs when the police kill a white person.

It's fucking ridiculous that you people have to race hustle when the underlying issue -- police violence -- is NOT a racial issue. There existed legitimate criticism of police using excessive violence against people, including unarmed people, and yet you race hustlers had to hijack the fucking thing with your racist rants and black nationalism.

And I find it very interesting that you suddenly want to look at the racial statistics while you ignore the fact that black males are about 7% of the population and commit over half the murders. There's obviously a reason they have police encounters..

Fuck off.