Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by DBTrek » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:32 am

I think economic policies are a huge divider between political ideologies. It’s the primary separator between a capitalist, a socialist, and a communist party. Pretty significant difference. Socially you have libertarians accepting the KKK, the right to refuse service based on race/gender/religion/anything - try running that past a liberal.

Consider the views of liberals and libertarians on the subject of “the role of government”. Another considerable ideological chasm. Taxation? Polar opposites. So on and so forth. Sure, there is some overlap in some areas, but again, that’s true of all the major political ideologies.

It’s the differences that define the ideology as unique, not the shared views.
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:39 am

DrYouth wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote: I am not Alt-Right. I don't really know anything about Anglin that Nukedog doesn't post in here, which is probably as much as any of you.
Do you define yourself in any particular way...
Or just some unique snowflake?

Reactionary.

While you guys argue about what side of the tennis court you will sit, I didn't even bother showing up. Fuck the tennis court.

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by DrYouth » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:15 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Reactionary.

While you guys argue about what side of the tennis court you will sit, I didn't even bother showing up. Fuck the tennis court.
Reactionary

A reactionary is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society, which they believe possessed characteristics (discipline, respect for authority, etc.) that are negatively absent from the contemporary status quo of a society. As an adjective, the word reactionary describes points of view and policies meant to restore the status quo ante.[1]

Political reactionaries are largely found on the right-wing of a political spectrum, though left-wing reactionaries can also exist.[2] Reactionary ideologies can also be radical, in the sense of political extremism, in service to re-establishing the status quo ante. In political discourse, being a reactionary is generally regarded as negative; the descriptor "political reactionary" has been adopted by the likes of the Austrian monarchist Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn,[3] the Scottish journalist Gerald Warner of Craigenmaddie,[4] the Colombian political theologian Nicolás Gómez Dávila, and the American historian John Lukacs.[5]
Status Quo Ante... meaning the "good ol' days".... pre-enlightenment...
When men were men and we had good ol' tribal enemies...

Yep... that describes you very well.
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:17 am

So a psychiatrist walks into Wikipedia to find an honest assessment of a branch of politics that is opposed to liberalism..

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by DrYouth » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:06 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:So a psychiatrist walks into Wikipedia to find an honest assessment of a branch of politics that is opposed to liberalism..
Which part of that definition do you disagree with?

I mean besides is where its says it is generally regarded as negative in political discourse...
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:07 am

DrYouth wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So a psychiatrist walks into Wikipedia to find an honest assessment of a branch of politics that is opposed to liberalism..
Which part of that definition do you disagree with?

Pretty much the entire characterization of a diverse group of people who are simply skeptical of the Enlightenment.

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
DrYouth wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So a psychiatrist walks into Wikipedia to find an honest assessment of a branch of politics that is opposed to liberalism..
Which part of that definition do you disagree with?

Pretty much the entire characterization of a diverse group of people who are simply skeptical of the Enlightenment.
What parts of the enlightenment?
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by DrYouth » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:09 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
DrYouth wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So a psychiatrist walks into Wikipedia to find an honest assessment of a branch of politics that is opposed to liberalism..
Which part of that definition do you disagree with?

Pretty much the entire characterization of a diverse group of people who are simply skeptical of the Enlightenment.
Besides the moralizing part...

I thought it was a reasonable definition...

It could apply to pre- industrial revolution, pre-Enlightenment, pre-bronze age, pre anything really...
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by DBTrek » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:11 am

Maybe we could coin it the anti-Enlightenment movement?
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:12 am

jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
DrYouth wrote: Which part of that definition do you disagree with?

Pretty much the entire characterization of a diverse group of people who are simply skeptical of the Enlightenment.
What parts of the enlightenment?

What parts of the Enlightenment are off-limits to be skeptical about??