Stop Posting Star Wars Spoilers

[Fife]

Saw it last night. It has its moments but it feels like it goes on and on. Force Powers have become ridiculous. No really new ideas; feels recycled/formulaic. 6/10

The Basic problem of the whole saga is that once it did get an actual story, basically with Empire Strikes Back, it then rehashed it again and again.

No story arc; sounds like watching the freaking Walking Dead.

[heydaralon]

Saw it last night. It has its moments but it feels like it goes on and on. Force Powers have become ridiculous. No really new ideas; feels recycled/formulaic. 6/10

The Basic problem of the whole saga is that once it did get an actual story, basically with Empire Strikes Back, it then rehashed it again and again.

No story arc; sounds like watching the freaking Walking Dead.

AMC has made some good shows like Mad Men, but the Walking Dead imo has always been borderline unwatchable. I stopped after season 2, and I am amazed it has gone on this long... Not a big fan of zombie stuff in general.

I think Speaker pointed out that in a zombie apocalypse, the undead would be incidental. You would have to be a lot more wary of the other humans who actually have a working brain and could scheme against you. Hell, most of those zombies move slower than an octagenerian.

[SilverEagle]

Saw it last night. It has its moments but it feels like it goes on and on. Force Powers have become ridiculous. No really new ideas; feels recycled/formulaic. 6/10

The Basic problem of the whole saga is that once it did get an actual story, basically with Empire Strikes Back, it then rehashed it again and again.

No story arc; sounds like watching the freaking Walking Dead.

So true.

[heydaralon]

The Basic problem of the whole saga is that once it did get an actual story, basically with Empire Strikes Back, it then rehashed it again and again.

No story arc; sounds like watching the freaking Walking Dead.

So true.

If you ever want to have an honest debate about Star Wars, you know where to find me. It would certainly help matters if you unblocked me you silly bastard. I look forward to hearing from you Eagle.

[SuburbanFarmer]

See, what's annoying about Star Warsfags and Star Trekfags, is that their excuse is always "real space war couldn't be dramatic", but that's not the case, it would just be different, free falling along curved trajectories in gravity wells would be more like battles between ships in the age of sail, except in three dimensions, you'd have to use the orbital dynamics and energy states to your advantage to get to "broadsides". To wit, less like Top Gun and more like Master and Commander.

Every time I see the Millennium Falcon "flying" around the Star Destroyers, it's hard to maintain suspension of disbelief, and when they hyperspace teleport, that's not even as realistic as Gandalf casting a spell with his staff, in 1977 I didn't understand how space worked, but now I do, and I can't go back, so space war in Star Wars just seems silly to me now.

It's like watching a really cheesy totally nonsensical military movie, after you have served in the military, it's just not that interesting, and you want for something more realistic. A little movie magic is fine, but utterly magical becomes a cartoon.

Like in Rogue One when the Star Destroyers are crashing into each other over a gateway, in orbit, which all remains stationary above a base on the surface below, how does that work? Answer; it doesn't, even as magic it doesn't really work. Even in a magical movie, you can take the magic so far, that even the magic becomes so silly that you can't abide it, you can't stay with it, you fall out of disbelief and start to nod off.

Picture the planet slowly moving underneath the space battle. All issues resolved.

[Smitty-48]

Just one small example to illustrate, point being, the space opera model, where the laws of physics do not apply, is dated, it's stale, it's like flying saucers in the 1950's, except its gone on and on without anybody breaking the mold. It's time to move on from that, audiences are far more sophisticated now when it comes to the science of space, there's an untapped market, for space as space, instead of space as Alice in Wonderland.

[Speaker to Animals]

People want to see actual science fiction rather than space fantasy. Star Wars is just fantasy. So is Star Trek. As such, they are fine, I guess, but SF is far superior to fantasy for many of us.

It's also annoying when space fantasy fans call themselves SF fans.

[Smitty-48]

Indeed, and what Alastair Reynolds has shown, as an astrophysicist who is also a writer, is that you can still do space opera, without jettisoning the laws of physics completely, the laws of physics themselves, actually make things interesting again.

Actual space in of itself, it way more mysterious and cool than "the Force".

Gluon-quark plasma engine constant acceleration, with energy drawn by quantum mechanics from the future itself, not just handwaving, actually theoretically possible.

Biomechanical nanochines, which would allow you to make moves like a Jedi, but not by magic, by theoretically plausible technology.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Just one small example to illustrate, point being, the space opera model, where the laws of physics do not apply, is dated, it's stale, it's like flying saucers in the 1950's, except its gone on and on without anybody breaking the mold. It's time to move on from that, audiences are far more sophisticated now when it comes to the science of space, there's an untapped market, for space as space, instead of space as Alice in Wonderland.

See Interstellar or The Martian (except for that dust storm).

[Smitty-48]

See Interstellar or The Martian (except for that dust storm).

Yeah, I liked Interstellar, but point being, you could go even further towards Star Wars than that, without having to jettison the laws of physics, there is a point where 2001 meets Star Wars, in Revelation Space.

Conjoiners, Ultras, and Demarchists, far more interesting than Yoda and the Ewoks, because they are plausible, not magic, the future.

Gimme a Lighthugger over the Millennium Falcon any day of the week, because a Lighthugger I can believe in, doesn't require much suspension of disbelief at all, because it's not made up nonsense, it's simply extrapolation.

We wont see Alpha Centauri, but if you push the timeline out far enough, someone will get to Andromeda, the galaxy long ago and far far away, for realz. In order to do it, those someones would have to be far more alien to us than Darth Vader, they'd have to be cybernetics of some sort, but again, now we're getting somewhere interesting.

"When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not"? Not necessary true. The Clone Wars? Ah, but in the clone wars, even 9000 years is plausible.

900 years, Yoda? At relativistic velocity 1g? Where would that get you?

To the very limits of the universe itself, who needs warp drive? If you could sustain 10g, you could get to the galaxy long ago and far far away, in six months.

Could Darth Vader sustain 10g? Yeah, probably not, but he's not even all that high tech, is he? Cybernetics could be taken much further than that.