The Opioid Crisis

[heydaralon]

Bwhahahahahaha!

Are you fucking serious?
If you can't take it, don't fucking dish it.

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Im not going to tolerate bullying online or irl. You have already ruined my Thanksgiving with your demeaning and mean spirited remarks. I expect an apology, and a damn good one. This is a new low for you...

So you can insult me, make fun of me, and "bully" me all you want... but the minute I get under your skin "by bulling you", you get in a tizzy.

Grow up. This is online... and you deserve exactly what you sewed.

As for ruining your Thanksgiving... Your welcome.

When did I ever make fun of you dude? I may joke around from time to time, but I treat everyone on here with respect. But you just like tearing people down. You went way over the line and Im not sure I can ind it in my heart to forgive you. I barely touched my thanksgiving food today, and I love turkey. I couldnt stop thinking about some of the cruel remarks you made. I did a personal inventory, and I concluded that I am not in the wrong. Do you not have any empathy?

[heydaralon]

Sorry, it is not a doctor's responsibility to support an addiction because the alternative might be worse. I understand the black market argument but that doesn't mean a gun dealer should avoid legal responsibility because they sell to gangbangers because the alternative might be worse.

I'm not saying its the doctors responsibility at all. But how exactly should a doctor get a manslaughter charge for prescribing drugs that people wanted and possibly gave him false information to obtain? Club, do you think a bartender should get a manslaughter charge for serving alcohol to a dude who gets in an accident or gets cirrhosis?
That is ridiculous to me.

If a bartender has to go to school for a solid decade and be licensed by the state for so much as serving a beer at a small birthday party then yes, I would expect a little due diligence.

In your opinion, what measures should a doctor take to protect themselves? You work in the medical industry right? What is the solution in your opinion?

[The Conservative]

Im not going to tolerate bullying online or irl. You have already ruined my Thanksgiving with your demeaning and mean spirited remarks. I expect an apology, and a damn good one. This is a new low for you...

So you can insult me, make fun of me, and "bully" me all you want... but the minute I get under your skin "by bulling you", you get in a tizzy.

Grow up. This is online... and you deserve exactly what you sewed.

As for ruining your Thanksgiving... Your welcome.

When did I ever make fun of you dude? I may joke around from time to time, but I treat everyone on here with respect. But you just like tearing people down. You went way over the line and Im not sure I can ind it in my heart to forgive you. I barely touched my thanksgiving food today, and I love turkey. I couldnt stop thinking about some of the cruel remarks you made. I did a personal inventory, and I concluded that I am not in the wrong. Do you not have any empathy?

No, I have Aspergers

[clubgop]

I'm not saying its the doctors responsibility at all. But how exactly should a doctor get a manslaughter charge for prescribing drugs that people wanted and possibly gave him false information to obtain? Club, do you think a bartender should get a manslaughter charge for serving alcohol to a dude who gets in an accident or gets cirrhosis?
That is ridiculous to me.

If a bartender has to go to school for a solid decade and be licensed by the state for so much as serving a beer at a small birthday party then yes, I would expect a little due diligence.

In your opinion, what measures should a doctor take to protect themselves? You work in the medical industry right? What is the solution in your opinion?

From my experience if doctors make a sincere effort they won't be prosecuted it is when you have doctors that take patients from just anywhere that garner a reputation. You don't know how many of these guys are CI's coming to see you.

[heydaralon]

Potentially, at least as to civil liability ... see Dram Shop Acts

Im not for selling intoxicants like alcohol to minors, and I dont think bars should serve people who are falling over drunk, but those laws seem rife for abuse by the govt.

[clubgop]

Potentially, at least as to civil liability ... see Dram Shop Acts

Im not for selling intoxicants like alcohol to minors, and I dont think bars should serve people who are falling over drunk, but those laws seem rife for abuse by the govt.

Oh they are, but defense lawyers make a mint on defending professional licenses. It's just amazing to me the stellar, almost untouchable reputation doctors as whole receive. Just about everybody here up and down the thread want to give doctors every bit of the doubt.

[Hastur]

Potentially, at least as to civil liability ... see Dram Shop Acts

Im not for selling intoxicants like alcohol to minors, and I dont think bars should serve people who are falling over drunk, but those laws seem rife for abuse by the govt.

Oh they are, but defense lawyers make a mint on defending professional licenses. It's just amazing to me the stellar, almost untouchable reputation doctors as whole receive. Just about everybody here up and down the thread want to give doctors every bit of the doubt.

Not me. I think they are the key. Problem is most doctors are bought and paid for by big pharma.

The biggest problem is the media. The amount of advertising money they get from pharma is staggering. You will never hear a bad word about them on MSM.

[clubgop]

Im not for selling intoxicants like alcohol to minors, and I dont think bars should serve people who are falling over drunk, but those laws seem rife for abuse by the govt.

Oh they are, but defense lawyers make a mint on defending professional licenses. It's just amazing to me the stellar, almost untouchable reputation doctors as whole receive. Just about everybody here up and down the thread want to give doctors every bit of the doubt.

Not me. I think they are the key. Problem is most doctors are bought and paid for by big pharma.

The biggest problem is the media. The amount of advertising money they get from pharma is staggering. You will never hear a bad word about them on MSM.

That's all moot here, no one is advertising opioids, don't need to and no direct incentive. Big Pharma ain't a problem here.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Im not for selling intoxicants like alcohol to minors, and I dont think bars should serve people who are falling over drunk, but those laws seem rife for abuse by the govt.

Oh they are, but defense lawyers make a mint on defending professional licenses. It's just amazing to me the stellar, almost untouchable reputation doctors as whole receive. Just about everybody here up and down the thread want to give doctors every bit of the doubt.

Not me. I think they are the key. Problem is most doctors are bought and paid for by big pharma.

The biggest problem is the media. The amount of advertising money they get from pharma is staggering. You will never hear a bad word about them on MSM.

Same thing I was saying. +1

[Hastur]

Oh they are, but defense lawyers make a mint on defending professional licenses. It's just amazing to me the stellar, almost untouchable reputation doctors as whole receive. Just about everybody here up and down the thread want to give doctors every bit of the doubt.

Not me. I think they are the key. Problem is most doctors are bought and paid for by big pharma.

The biggest problem is the media. The amount of advertising money they get from pharma is staggering. You will never hear a bad word about them on MSM.

That's all moot here, no one is advertising opioids, don't need to and no direct incentive. Big Pharma ain't a problem here.

Opioids don’t need advertising. Are you dense or something? The same companies that make out like bandits selling opioids are financing a lot of of MSM by advertising other drugs. Connect the dots.