Tax Plan For Aristocracy

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by C-Mag » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:38 am

Something good in the plan.
The NFL and University's will lose their tax Breaks on Stadiums.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:56 am

PartyOf5 wrote:An inheritance tax is a double-dip taxation on the same money. It either already got taxed, or will be taxed when those that inherited the money are required to pull it out of pre-tax accounts (minimum distribution).
The point isn't about fairness, it's about stopping the creation of an aristocracy. Just accept the fact that you prefer an aristocracy over liberty, because this ends in socialism, and we'll call it a draw.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:13 am

Martin Hash wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:An inheritance tax is a double-dip taxation on the same money. It either already got taxed, or will be taxed when those that inherited the money are required to pull it out of pre-tax accounts (minimum distribution).
The point isn't about fairness, it's about stopping the creation of an aristocracy. Just accept the fact that you prefer an aristocracy over liberty, because this ends in socialism, and we'll call it a draw.
Double taxing people isn't liberty.

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Fife » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:14 am

Single taxing people isn't liberty.

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:20 am

Kath wrote:But, the system is rigged and it's rigged by the people with the most, to benefit the people with the most.
To say that the system is rigged to benefit those with the most assumes that benefiting those with the most isn't baked into the cake of civilization.

If you ask me, Oligarchy is the only type of government that works, which is fine by me, I just want the Oligarchs to pay for it.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:26 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:If you ask me, Oligarchy is the only type of government that works, which is fine by me, I just want the Oligarchs to pay for it.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:28 am

Fife wrote:Single taxing people isn't liberty.
It is to the ones who receive the largess.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:20 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Fife wrote:Single taxing people isn't liberty.
It is to the ones who receive the largess.
and the government is so great at deciding how to do that..... they know better than everyone else, and certainly Hash knows better than anyone who would dare to pass down an inheritance greater than $5 million, that's enough of a headstart, why do they need anymore, fuck their liberty.

Am I right?
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Lets not lift up the lower classes and the middle classes, let's tear down the rich instead, that's the best way to run an economy.
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You need to stop thinking of aristocracy defense and start thinking of ways to get more people who earned it into the aristocracy, you got it all backwards.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:25 pm

StCapps wrote:
Lets not lift up the lower classes and the middle classes, let's tear down the rich instead, that's the best way to run an economy.
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The problem is the bottom boats are not rising. The 1% have had triple digit increases since the Reagan years, but the middle class and poor class have not. Rising water may lift all boats, but rising profits doesn't lift all people.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:28 pm

Kath wrote:The problem is the bottom boats are not rising. The 1% have had triple digit increases since the Reagan years, but the middle class and poor class have not. Rising water may lift all boats, but rising profits doesn't lift all people.
Sure but the solution is not to take from the rich, it's to increase the opportunity for people of all classes to get rich, if they earn it. The best way to do that is not punish the rich, we want to incentive people to earn, not penalize it. Redistribution isn't the best way to do things.
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