Who said they used zyklon b in the delousing chambers. They actually look more like shower rooms to me though.Speaker to Animals wrote:You cannot delouse human beings with zyklon-b. the reason the eye-irritant was added to it was to keep people from dying from exposure. It's the same reason they put ammonia in chemicals like hydrazine.
Zyklon-B was used to delouse things like clothing, etc. Animals cannot survive it if exposed in a room like that. It's literally cyanide.
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Nukedog wrote:Who said they used zyklon b in the delousing chambers. They actually look more like shower rooms to me though.Speaker to Animals wrote:You cannot delouse human beings with zyklon-b. the reason the eye-irritant was added to it was to keep people from dying from exposure. It's the same reason they put ammonia in chemicals like hydrazine.
Zyklon-B was used to delouse things like clothing, etc. Animals cannot survive it if exposed in a room like that. It's literally cyanide.
The Nazis said so. They actually documented the entire thing.
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/RESOURCE/ ... cAusch.htm
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The Nazis certainly did not deny anything, they made no bones about it, they even acknowledged that it was evil, they didn't deny that it was, but it was no different than Hiroshima to them; total war of annihilation, kill or be killed; "necessary evil".
The Nazis had the courage of their convictions, they didn't try to duck it, generally, they admitted to the particulars, they simply claimed that it was a kangeroo court which was prosecuting them.
"Not Guilty" and "Dindu Nuffin", not the same plea, their position was "damn rights we did it, but it was total war for national survival, so we were fully justified, and you, having waged total war of annihiliation against us, are in no position to judge, particularly; when you're sitting over there, next to Josef Stalin & Co"
The Nazis had the courage of their convictions, they didn't try to duck it, generally, they admitted to the particulars, they simply claimed that it was a kangeroo court which was prosecuting them.
"Not Guilty" and "Dindu Nuffin", not the same plea, their position was "damn rights we did it, but it was total war for national survival, so we were fully justified, and you, having waged total war of annihiliation against us, are in no position to judge, particularly; when you're sitting over there, next to Josef Stalin & Co"
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They did indeed testify they had done the things the witnesses claimed. Some of the admissions stretch credulity imo. I've seen accounts of supposed torture but that's too sketchy to touch. Many of the other claims such as the pedal powered brain bashing machine and vacuum chambers are dubious enough.
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Personally, I don't care either way, we never actually invoked the Holocaust as a rubric to annihilate them, and since I'm not a liberal, I still don't, they had the Hague Convention, once they threw that aside, it was go time, we Hanoverians, we didn't bomb them for the Jews and Gypsies, we bombed them in defence of Parliamentary Supremacy and the Crown, how many people they killed and for what reason, neither here nor there, the Nazis were actually naive, about how ruthless we could be, so they found out the hard way; too bad so sad.Nukedog wrote:They did indeed testify they had done the things the witnesses claimed. Some of the admissions stretch credulity imo. I've seen accounts of supposed torture but that's too sketchy to touch. Many of the other claims such as the pedal powered brain bashing machine and vacuum chambers are dubious enough.
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Once they bombed London like that, the rules came off the table.
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It's true. Hitler offered to send them off on cruise liners to any takers. Nobody volunteered. Some made it to Russia or Palestine regardless. Infamously the lend lease scheme that fattened Germany's pre war coffers.
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Nah, we Hanoverians were going to annihilate them all along, we bombed them first, but that was just bait, to get them off the airfields, we put London in the kill zone, to save the Royal Air Force, and Hitler, being the dumbass that he was, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.Speaker to Animals wrote:Once they bombed London like that, the rules came off the table.
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Do you think 1940s Britain vs. Germany = Britain victor? (if no other European power participates)Smitty-48 wrote:Nah, we Hanoverians were going to annihilate them all along, we bombed them first, but that was just bait, to get them off the airfields, we put London in the kill zone, to save the Royal Air Force, and Hitler, being the dumbass that he was, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.Speaker to Animals wrote:Once they bombed London like that, the rules came off the table.
The Nazis are the South Germans, we're the North Germans, the Nazis aren't the Prussians, we are.
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More like stalemate, and then either the Germans attack the Soviets or if they don't, the Soviets attack the Germans.GloryofGreece wrote:Do you think 1940s Britain vs. Germany = Britain victor? (if no other European power participates)Smitty-48 wrote:Nah, we Hanoverians were going to annihilate them all along, we bombed them first, but that was just bait, to get them off the airfields, we put London in the kill zone, to save the Royal Air Force, and Hitler, being the dumbass that he was, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.Speaker to Animals wrote:Once they bombed London like that, the rules came off the table.
The Nazis are the South Germans, we're the North Germans, the Nazis aren't the Prussians, we are.
Bear in mind, the British don't actually care about the Continent, to the British, it's all about the Mediterranean, Africa, and India, so there's no actual impetus at all on the British side, to liberate France and the low countries, that was an American project.
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