Trump's Five Million

[Okeefenokee]

Hey, once they barred us Military from crossing the Rio Grande to take in the Donkey Show and Bull Fights, what did Juarez have left ?
This is clearly you military fascists fault.

That photo does present a pretty interesting scene. I could see little shacks like that in any fallout game. 16 foot square sheet metal shacks built in a wastleland.

Fallout 5 should be set in El Paso. Imagine standing on that hill amid those shacks, looking at the bombed out high rises across the border, then some ghoul tells you those shacks aren't new, but the same houses he lived in before the war.

[Fife]

I need help from one or more of you yankee cousins. Show me how paper ballots are rassis. I know they must be, but I need some help figuring it out.

Paper ballots are hack-proof. It's time to bring them back.

So what should we do? Well, we could try to boost our cybersecurity, but given that the NSA, the FBI and the CIA are leaking important secrets on a daily basis, maybe we’re not up to that job. So, once again, let me suggest that we return to something that, by its very nature, can’t be hacked by a guy in St. Petersburg: Paper ballots.

In some ways, paper and ink is a super technology. When you cast a vote on a voting machine, all that’s recorded is who you voted for. But a paper ballot captures lots of other information: Ink color, handwriting, etc. If you have access to a voting machine that’s connected to the Internet, you can change all the votes at once. To change a bunch of paper ballots takes physical access, and unless you’re very careful the changed ballots will show evidence of tampering. Paper ballots aren’t fraud-proof, of course, as a century of Chicago politics demonstrates, but they’re beyond the reach of some guy sitting at a computer in a basement halfway around the world. And there are well-known steps to make Chicago-style fraud harder.

[TheReal_ND]

It takes agency to scribble a dot on paper. It is racist as rain.

[Fife]

It takes agency to scribble a dot on paper. It is racist as rain.

Is it that we need to preserve the DOJ's Quality Control tools to be sure no rassis shit is going on in Texas? Paper ballots would only allow the rassiss to take over in places like Texas.

[TheReal_ND]

Meh. Methinks a budgetary deficit is not the problem. Rather an incentivisation deficit is the reason we can't enforce existing laws. Lord knows if it was a question of expanding the budget I would be on board as it's not my money anyway. Since you frame it as a question of expansion of state, I disregard your concern. It's not.

[Speaker to Animals]

I need help from one or more of you yankee cousins. Show me how paper ballots are rassis. I know they must be, but I need some help figuring it out.

Paper ballots are hack-proof. It's time to bring them back.

So what should we do? Well, we could try to boost our cybersecurity, but given that the NSA, the FBI and the CIA are leaking important secrets on a daily basis, maybe we’re not up to that job. So, once again, let me suggest that we return to something that, by its very nature, can’t be hacked by a guy in St. Petersburg: Paper ballots.

In some ways, paper and ink is a super technology. When you cast a vote on a voting machine, all that’s recorded is who you voted for. But a paper ballot captures lots of other information: Ink color, handwriting, etc. If you have access to a voting machine that’s connected to the Internet, you can change all the votes at once. To change a bunch of paper ballots takes physical access, and unless you’re very careful the changed ballots will show evidence of tampering. Paper ballots aren’t fraud-proof, of course, as a century of Chicago politics demonstrates, but they’re beyond the reach of some guy sitting at a computer in a basement halfway around the world. And there are well-known steps to make Chicago-style fraud harder.

Chicago politics also shows how easy it is to change paper ballots, though. They just create fake ballots to pad the results and sneak those boxes in with the boxes of legitimate ballots. They can also destroy ballots from districts where they know the vote is predominantly against them.

A better solution might involve a hybrid system in which we can quickly count votes electronically, but we have a mandatory recount of sample sets of physical ballots from each district. This would require the electronic system to also print out a physical ballot that is collected.

The voting machines should always be running on open source code and NEVER directly connected to any communications network. To upload the votes, you should have to remove the storage device from the voting machine and connect it manually to the counting machine (which also is NEVER connected to the internet). The code for these machines would be analyzed by quite a lot of people to look for vulnerabilities.

[The Conservative]

I need help from one or more of you yankee cousins. Show me how paper ballots are rassis. I know they must be, but I need some help figuring it out.

Paper ballots are hack-proof. It's time to bring them back.

So what should we do? Well, we could try to boost our cybersecurity, but given that the NSA, the FBI and the CIA are leaking important secrets on a daily basis, maybe we’re not up to that job. So, once again, let me suggest that we return to something that, by its very nature, can’t be hacked by a guy in St. Petersburg: Paper ballots.

In some ways, paper and ink is a super technology. When you cast a vote on a voting machine, all that’s recorded is who you voted for. But a paper ballot captures lots of other information: Ink color, handwriting, etc. If you have access to a voting machine that’s connected to the Internet, you can change all the votes at once. To change a bunch of paper ballots takes physical access, and unless you’re very careful the changed ballots will show evidence of tampering. Paper ballots aren’t fraud-proof, of course, as a century of Chicago politics demonstrates, but they’re beyond the reach of some guy sitting at a computer in a basement halfway around the world. And there are well-known steps to make Chicago-style fraud harder.

Chicago politics also shows how easy it is to change paper ballots, though. They just create fake ballots to pad the results and sneak those boxes in with the boxes of legitimate ballots. They can also destroy ballots from districts where they know the vote is predominantly against them.

Paper ballots work, as long as the chain of security is intact.

[Speaker to Animals]

I need help from one or more of you yankee cousins. Show me how paper ballots are rassis. I know they must be, but I need some help figuring it out.

Paper ballots are hack-proof. It's time to bring them back.

Chicago politics also shows how easy it is to change paper ballots, though. They just create fake ballots to pad the results and sneak those boxes in with the boxes of legitimate ballots. They can also destroy ballots from districts where they know the vote is predominantly against them.

Paper ballots work, as long as the chain of security is intact.

Physical chain of security is more difficult than doing it electronically, honestly. Corruption of petty officials makes it almost impossible.

A hybrid system would provide redundancy that would make defrauding the system much more difficult since you'd both need to hack the machines (probably the counters) *and* somehow sabotage the physical ballots to match what you did electronically. It would be like redundant flight control systems where you have fly-by-wire coupled with physical cables and rods. That's the most robust way to do it.

[clubgop]

I need help from one or more of you yankee cousins. Show me how paper ballots are rassis. I know they must be, but I need some help figuring it out.

Paper ballots are hack-proof. It's time to bring them back.

So what should we do? Well, we could try to boost our cybersecurity, but given that the NSA, the FBI and the CIA are leaking important secrets on a daily basis, maybe we’re not up to that job. So, once again, let me suggest that we return to something that, by its very nature, can’t be hacked by a guy in St. Petersburg: Paper ballots.

In some ways, paper and ink is a super technology. When you cast a vote on a voting machine, all that’s recorded is who you voted for. But a paper ballot captures lots of other information: Ink color, handwriting, etc. If you have access to a voting machine that’s connected to the Internet, you can change all the votes at once. To change a bunch of paper ballots takes physical access, and unless you’re very careful the changed ballots will show evidence of tampering. Paper ballots aren’t fraud-proof, of course, as a century of Chicago politics demonstrates, but they’re beyond the reach of some guy sitting at a computer in a basement halfway around the world. And there are well-known steps to make Chicago-style fraud harder.

Fucking idiots. Some guy in some basement cant fuck with these things they arent connected to any network. Some of these have as much processing power as a speak and spell. But as for paper that cpmes with its oen problems. Counting will take longer a lot longer, which could expose it to more malfeasance. As for color ink, handwriting, ah no bitch, that is diametrically oppossed to everything the whole franchise is supposed to be about.

[SuburbanFarmer]

There is no reason I couldn't print off a million paper ballots and swap them out. Or just pay the guy that reports the total to the media.