Trump's SCOTUS

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:24 pm

Kath wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:03 pm
clubgop wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:00 pm

It's not wool over the eyes, they are assholes but these are my assholes. You should recognize better than some others once in a while you gotta show the assholes a little love.
I disagree. We can do better. Leaders exist, just not in government.
"Leaders" or even people with integrity can't get elected. In a democracy, the Primary produces candidates that have promised whatever it is their endorsees want. Add up the voting blocks and see if you can get 51%. I can tell you how many people select off of a bio or "issues" - about 1%.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Kath » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:32 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:24 pm

"Leaders" or even people with integrity can't get elected. In a democracy, the Primary produces candidates that have promised whatever it is their endorsees want. Add up the voting blocks and see if you can get 51%. I can tell you how many people select off of a bio or "issues" - about 1%.
I know. That's my point. We have crap leadership because we elect crap leaders based on something called a "campaign promise," which does not resemble an actual promise, in any way.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:39 pm

It's almost as if democracy isn't all that.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Ph64 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:50 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:39 pm
It's almost as if democracy isn't all that.
Democracy doesn't work. And even a republic falls apart if you have voters that aren't invested in good governance, aren't educated in defending the rights in the constitution (or other founding documents), and would rather vote for whoever promises more gibs.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by clubgop » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:59 pm

Kath wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:32 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:24 pm

"Leaders" or even people with integrity can't get elected. In a democracy, the Primary produces candidates that have promised whatever it is their endorsees want. Add up the voting blocks and see if you can get 51%. I can tell you how many people select off of a bio or "issues" - about 1%.
I know. That's my point. We have crap leadership because we elect crap leaders based on something called a "campaign promise," which does not resemble an actual promise, in any way.
That's the system. Easily fulfilling the promises is not democracy that's dictatorship. That's the "leadership" you hunger for or at least seemingly. You dont want that.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by C-Mag » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:08 pm

clubgop wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:24 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:18 pm
They should just subpoena Ms Ford
You don’t get to make accusations and then play like you control shit

She can the do 3 things
1. Testify in public
2. Retract
3. Fail to show and be held in contempt
No, no, no, half the country are already treating her like a God damn victim dont make her an actual one.
Stop being a scared little cuck

Ford doesn’t run the US Senate or tell it what to do. The Senate must dictate
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:45 pm

Kavanaugh’s in.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by C-Mag » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:31 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:45 pm
Kavanaugh’s in.
I think he is too.

Clubbies response is the exact response the Radical Left expects. They want you too scared of being called a bad name to excercise Merit based decision making.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by clubgop » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:51 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:08 pm
clubgop wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:24 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:18 pm
They should just subpoena Ms Ford
You don’t get to make accusations and then play like you control shit

She can the do 3 things
1. Testify in public
2. Retract
3. Fail to show and be held in contempt
No, no, no, half the country are already treating her like a God damn victim dont make her an actual one.
Stop being a scared little cuck

Ford doesn’t run the US Senate or tell it what to do. The Senate must dictate
Oh I agree, give her a seat and record the empty chair. You gave her a forum but she wont take it. We will proceed. Do not subpoena, contempt of congress is a publicity stunt for the person who is charged with it. Some women's shelter or planned parenthood will pay the fine and you'll look like a chump. Dont be a bitch like they are, you are in control, you already have it, you need not make demands of people that you know wont be met it will make you look weak and Sen. Flake will most likely live up to his name and then you are truly powerless.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS

Post by clubgop » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:55 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:31 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:45 pm
Kavanaugh’s in.
I think he is too.

Clubbies response is the exact response the Radical Left expects. They want you too scared of being called a bad name to excercise Merit based decision making.
Shut up, the process is exactly how I would proceed, give her an opportunity if she doesn't take it then that is on her.