THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Wed May 03, 2017 1:08 pm

StCapps wrote: You are inflating the importance of political rhetoric just because you don't like this particular brand of it.
I'm talking about how this man continues to make seven mistakes in a six-word sentence. Every. Single. Day. That's the clown part that gives me valid reasons to never take him seriously. He never says what he means unless he's wrong, then he doubles down on his wrongness.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 1:08 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:i'd feel a lot safer with a politician in there right now.
Well you have a politician in there. So simmer down, he just has less experience than most.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 1:09 pm

StCapps wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:I voted for an Outsider, I got a politician, my bad.
Just because he wasn't a politician before he ran doesn't mean he wasn't going to become one when he won the election. You should have known better, he was obviously playing that angle up to get elected because people wanted change, just because he was more trustworthy than Hillary Clinton to deliver on that doesn't mean he was actually trustworthy.
Have I mentioned that I'm a naïve optimist, and that I follow through and expect other people to?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 1:10 pm

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: You are inflating the importance of political rhetoric just because you don't like this particular brand of it.
I'm talking about how this man continues to make seven mistakes in a six-word sentence. Every. Single. Day. That's the clown part that gives me valid reasons to never take him seriously. He never says what he means unless he's wrong, then he doubles down on his wrongness.
Not really, you're just a hater looking to twist his every word into further confirmation that you were right about Trump all along. Confirmation bias, all politicians lie, you just don't like his tone, and you are trying to turn that into a capital crime because you don't have enough good criticisms of actions.

Actions speak louder than words. You are trying to tell me that words speak louder than actions in the case of Trump, and I'm not buying it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Hastur » Wed May 03, 2017 1:10 pm

brewster wrote:
Hastur wrote:
Industrial Society and Its Future Theodore Kaczynski 1995 wrote:OVERSOCIALIZATION
How did I miss the resurrection of Ted Kaczynski as visionary? This is the 2nd time I've heard him referenced recently, interestingly the other was by a commie apologist, Dmitri Orlov. Reminds me of people who admired Manson a couple decades ago.
He was pretty good at diagnosis. When it came to cure he wasn't as creative. Fucking Luddite.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 1:14 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:I voted for an Outsider, I got a politician, my bad.
Just because he wasn't a politician before he ran doesn't mean he wasn't going to become one when he won the election. You should have known better, he was obviously playing that angle up to get elected because people wanted change, just because he was more trustworthy than Hillary Clinton to deliver on that doesn't mean he was actually trustworthy.
Have I mentioned that I'm a naïve optimist, and that I follow through and expect other people to?
Not sure why you would include politicians who tell you what you want to hear among those you expect to follow through. That's a path to constant disappointment at every turn.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Hastur wrote:
brewster wrote:
Hastur wrote:
How did I miss the resurrection of Ted Kaczynski as visionary? This is the 2nd time I've heard him referenced recently, interestingly the other was by a commie apologist, Dmitri Orlov. Reminds me of people who admired Manson a couple decades ago.
He was pretty good at diagnosis. When it came to cure he wasn't as creative. Fucking Luddite.
I used to have a guy working for me, became a lifelong friend actually, who lived in a trench in the ground in New Mexico. He had a computer running off a car battery. He'd take his computer into town occasionally to buy another bag of rice and to get on the Internet. His brother had a trench less than a mile away. He lived like that for years. Now's he's the IT guy at a commune. Has a 30-yo French girlfriend.

p.s. I know, non sequitor, but entertaining.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 1:19 pm

StCapps wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
StCapps wrote:Just because he wasn't a politician before he ran doesn't mean he wasn't going to become one when he won the election. You should have known better, he was obviously playing that angle up to get elected because people wanted change, just because he was more trustworthy than Hillary Clinton to deliver on that doesn't mean he was actually trustworthy.
Have I mentioned that I'm a naïve optimist, and that I follow through and expect other people to?
Not sure why you would include politicians who tell you what you want to hear among those you expect to follow through. That's a path to constant disappointment at every turn.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 1:24 pm

Not being a politician before running for political office is no guarantee that they won't act like a politician once in office, especially if they are seek re-election.

It's just the way of the world, and I don't see that changing anytime in the foreseeable future.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 1:26 pm

StCapps wrote:Not being a politician before running for political office is no guarantee that they won't act like a politician once in office, especially if they are seek re-election. It's just the way of the world, and I don't see that changing anytime in the foreseeable future.
And the major failing of democracy.
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