THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by **Alexander PhiAlipson** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:52 pm

de officiis wrote:http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 27964.html

Why is the Left worried about Trump again? I see no justification for their concern in this spending bill at all.

No shit!

Post by **Martin Hash** » Mon May 01, 2017 5:56 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
de officiis wrote:http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 27964.html

Why is the Left worried about Trump again? I see no justification for their concern in this spending bill at all.
No shit!

My hope is that Trump's Metahood somehow prevents him from ever doing anything. (Except appointing liberty-minded Supreme Court judges.)

Post by **Okeefenokee** » Mon May 01, 2017 10:18 pm

Post by **Hanarchy Montanarchy** » Tue May 02, 2017 12:21 am

Probably because the Nazis were a specific party in control of a specific country that we had a long, bloody and globe changing war with.

I would submit that there are a lot of people who hate communism more than fascism, in the abstract.

Post by **de officiis** » Tue May 02, 2017 5:31 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
de officiis wrote:http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 27964.html

Why is the Left worried about Trump again? I see no justification for their concern in this spending bill at all.
No shit!

My hope is that Trump's Metahood somehow prevents him from ever doing anything. (Except appointing liberty-minded Supreme Court judges.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 60c57249d4

Democrats think they have set the stage to block President Trump’s legislative priorities for years to come by winning major concessions in a spending bill to keep the government open.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) secured nearly $5 billion in new domestic spending by exploiting disagreements between Trump and GOP lawmakers over spending priorities.

Democrats’ lopsided victory on the five-month deal, which is likely to be approved this week, means it will be very difficult — if not impossible — for the GOP to exert its will in future budget negotiations, including when it comes to Trump’s 2018 budget blueprint.

That’s because Republicans are hopelessly divided over how much to spend on government programs, with a small but vocal minority unwilling to support such measures at all. That has forced Republicans to work with Democrats to avoid politically damaging government shutdowns.

And that means Democrats are in the driver’s seat when it comes to budget battles, even with Trump in the White House.

What a disaster the Republicans in Congress have become/are continuing to be.

Post by **apeman** » Tue May 02, 2017 6:30 am

de officiis wrote:What a disaster the Republicans in Congress have become/are continuing to be.

Not really sure what being a Republican means at this point.

Post by **Martin Hash** » Tue May 02, 2017 6:50 am

apeman wrote:
de officiis wrote:What a disaster the Republicans in Congress have become/are continuing to be.
Not really sure what being a Republican means at this point.

Antiabortion? Retirement? Flag Burning Amendment? Really, I don't know what Republicanism is anymore? The Libertarians need to take over that Party.

Post by **Fife** » Tue May 02, 2017 7:03 am

apeman wrote:
de officiis wrote:What a disaster the Republicans in Congress have become/are continuing to be.
Not really sure what being a Republican means at this point.

Look for the opposite of this guy and you'll get what being a Republican "means" (there's ~ >220 of them in the House right now): viewtopic.php?f=61&t=1988

Post by **adwinistrator** » Tue May 02, 2017 7:22 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Probably because the Nazis were a specific party in control of a specific country that we had a long, bloody and globe changing war with.

I would submit that there are a lot of people who hate communism more than fascism, in the abstract.

I watched the same video last night, forgot I was even sub'd to PragerU.

The whole video, I'm thinking "Why does he keep saying Nazism? What reason does he have for narrowing the scope to a single country for this comparison".

I mean, I'm sure there's a useful conversation to be had on the causes of death and suffering between these different counties, relating to their political ideologies, but it's quite a multifaceted system.

If anything, it would appear that the main commonality between all these "evil" governments is authoritarian autocracy. When control and power is centralized and concentrated into one person, and the governed have little political freedom, the person in power has the ability to commit the worst atrocities of history. In a governmental system like that, the outcome could be good if you have a decent and moral leader, but all it takes is one megalomaniacal demagogue to send that country to ruin.

Post by **Martin Hash** » Tue May 02, 2017 7:33 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Probably because the Nazis were a specific party in control of a specific country that we had a long, bloody and globe changing war with.

I would submit that there are a lot of people who hate communism more than fascism, in the abstract.

Both good points. Fascism & Communism are both Collectivism, they just differ who should be in charge: Hitler or Stalin?

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