This thread proves my warning that if wealth is not redistributed one way, it will be another.
UBI is a socialist wetdream.
Income Inequality
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Martin Hash
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How is a UBI meaningfully different from your 'edifying make-work of one's own choosing' plan?Martin Hash wrote:This thread proves my warning that if wealth is not redistributed one way, it will be another.
UBI is a socialist wetdream.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
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Martin Hash
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UBI is a Right, society cannot require anything of you in return.Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:How is a UBI meaningfully different from your 'edifying make-work of one's own choosing' plan?Martin Hash wrote:This thread proves my warning that if wealth is not redistributed one way, it will be another.
UBI is a socialist wetdream.
In a Liberty society, we are allies. I don't owe you a damn thing except what's in our contract. If either side feels abused by the deal, they walk away. That's called an adversarial relationship, which is the only way any system remains stable. If 2 of us were on a desert island, and you wanted me to harvest coconuts so you could lay on the beach, that ain't going to work out, unless we have a contract: you blowjobs, me coconuts. But you can't say, "I don't want to give blowjobs, I just want to create art & masturbate."
p.s. The flip side is that I own the coconuts & in that position of monopoly power, I make you rim me too.
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It's not a right by any definition of the word.
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Fife wrote:Is Social Security a right?
Negative.
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Martin Hash
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Essentially, yes. In fact, it's much closer to a UBI than socialism, because socialism, "most good to the most people," would have a Means Test.Fife wrote:Is Social Security a right?
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A right is not exhaustible for one thing. It's feasible that social security will become defunct and unable to pay out to everybody.
Freedom of speech is a right. I can shoot my mouth off all day. That doesn't cost anybody anything.
When you get into the business of declaring that finite and depletable resources are "rights", you literally appeal to the bedrock of socialism.
Freedom of speech is a right. I can shoot my mouth off all day. That doesn't cost anybody anything.
When you get into the business of declaring that finite and depletable resources are "rights", you literally appeal to the bedrock of socialism.
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Martin Hash
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I'm going to have to go back to just reading your stuff occasionally. Someone nudge me when StA says something rational.
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