THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:08 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:Indeed, he's the President of Canada. Haven't you heard? Canada First baby.
Canada First!

Trump; "I will tear up NAFTA in the first hundred days!!! Oh, wait, I talked to the Canadians and they say don't, never mind."
Trump always did say that Canada and Mexico could change his mind on tearing up NAFTA if we were willing to re-negotiate. All this talk of a broken campaign promise is just Breitbart butthurt because they only remember the promise to tear up NAFTA and not the caveat Trump always brought up whenever he talked about tearing up NAFTA.

Trump left himself this out the entire time, and it was fairly obvious why he did so, some folks were just too slow to catch on due to wishful thinking. It was an obvious outrageous opening offer if ever there was one, when will these people ever learn?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:11 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:I wonder how they got to him.
Trudeau got to him, througn Ivanka, our Canadian agent in the West Wing.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:12 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I wonder how they got to him.
Trudeau got to him, througn Ivanka, our Canadian agent in the West Wing.
Nah Trump planned this all along. No one talked him into anything, he's just letting them think that they did. He was never going to tear up NAFTA.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:12 am

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:Indeed, he's the President of Canada. Haven't you heard? Canada First baby.
Canada First!

Trump; "I will tear up NAFTA in the first hundred days!!! Oh, wait, I talked to the Canadians and they say don't, never mind."
Trump always did say that Canada and Mexico could change his mind on tearing up NAFTA if we were willing to re-negotiate. All this talk of a broken campaign promise is just Breitbart butthurt because they only remember the promise to tear up NAFTA and not the caveat Trump always brought up whenever he talked about tearing up NAFTA.

Trump left himself this out the entire time, and it was fairly obvious why he did so, some folks were just too slow to catch on due to wishful thinking. It was an obvious outrageous opening offer if ever there was one, when will these people ever learn?
We're not even willing to renegotiate, Trudeau is just stringing him along. Raise stumpage on softwood? Never. End Supply Management? Not gonna happen. Pharmaceutical patents? Get fucked.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:14 am

Smitty-48 wrote:We not even willing to renegotiate, Trudeau is just stringing him along.
Sure looks like we are willing to re-negotiate, it could be a bluff I suppose. But then why wouldn't we re-negotiate when we are going to get a better deal if we do and be stuck with a worse deal if we don't?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:15 am

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:We not even willing to renegotiate, Trudeau is just stringing him along.
Sure looks like we are willing to re-negotiate, it could be a bluff I suppose.
They're not going to give up any of the big stuff that the Americans are demanding, it will just be a stalemate, and then the Americans will back down.

There's just too many interests in congress making too much money off of Canada, for them to back Trump in a trade war against their own constituents, NAFTA is too complex to simply "tear up", that ain't so easy, as Trump is now discovering.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:15 am

TheReal_ND wrote:Image
So Trump dumped the idea of a Wall for now. Let's see how long that "for now".

If one would assume that nothing changes and one would simply extrapolate from the 100 days onward, I assume that people would be calling good riddance for Trump in a year if he's impeached.

(Btw Nuke, that Finnish centenary coin you posted on the Europe is boring thread caused quite a stir. The minister in charge had to admit he didn't notice the actual picture on 100 years memorial coin. The proposal has now been withdrawn.)

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:18 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:We not even willing to renegotiate, Trudeau is just stringing him along.
Sure looks like we are willing to re-negotiate, it could be a bluff I suppose.
They're not going to give up any of the big stuff that the Americans are demanding, it will just be a stalemate, and then the Americans will back down.
Nah, the Americans won't back down until they get at least a token victory. They might not get any big concessions from us, and we not get any big concessions from them, but they are at least going to tweak the current deal a little bit and both Trudeau and Trump will call it a big success, even if it isn't.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:19 am

Smitty-48 wrote:I'm not sure I understand, are you going short with options? AAPL short 90 long 140 kind of thing, or are you saying you're going to short Apple without a hedge? No calls, no puts, you're just going short and rolling the dice?

Remember last year when guys were saying "oh, it's time to short AAPL, they're doomed"? And you know, it's up 38%, just because iPhone market share has dropped, I don't think quite time to bet the farm against AAPL yet.
I'm not actively shorting (holding puts on) Apple at the moment, just AMD, because they spiked up on nothing, and long (holding calls on) AFSI (my soon to be former employer) because they tanked on nothing.

All I'm doing is buying a put or call (buying premium) to bet on what happens with the stock within a given timeframe - that's the hard part. Usually, it's timed for after the next earnings date. So, if I believed that now was the time for Apple to come back down to reality, I'd purchase a put near what I thought the stock was going to, and for the week after their next Earnings. If I had a specific target in mind, given chart patterns, I'd also sell (short) a put around that price. That way, my entry is even cheaper, and I'm targeting a certain move within that timeframe. I make a closing order to get rid of the position when it's at max value, and let it sit.

You can also short options (sell premium), which is much riskier, but much more likely to pay off. The problem is that you're liable for whatever-the-hell that option's value is when you close it. So, if I sell a $150 call on Apple for next week (for example), it currently pays out around $40 in premium to me. If Apple doesn't go over $150 by next friday, I keep it. If it does, I'm on the hook for 100x the stock price over $150.

The entire concept of options revolves around betting on the movement of 100 shares, without actually owning them.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:20 am

Trump's popularity was based upon opposition to the establishment. It was an open source rebellion, meaning anyone could join and contribute, and many different groups did.

So what ended the Trump Rebellion? Not opposition, not protests, not scandals.

Trump became a Republican/Neocon.