THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by adwinistrator » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:24 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Stocks are a bullshit way for Insiders to get your pension money. Unless you gamble on the flip of a coin, don't get involved.

You want to "invest," fix up a spare room to AirBnB.
You want to "invest," go to school to get an electrician's license.
You want to "invest," quit giving your relatives money, and buy a used car.
Brother Hash speaking truth!

I would add, index funds are one of the few reasonable market investments.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:29 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Taxing stock purchases! Jesus Christ, maybe we should tax bank deposits.

Does no one understand what taxes are for? It's not a fucking "fairness" issue.
American Civil War, the first line of taxes were put into place to help pay for it. After that 1861 was the first income tax, and 1862 started to produce revenue from the taxes... a 3% tax on something along the lines of $600... and 5% off of 10K or more...

The purpose of taxes originally was to pay for war... taxes now, to fund the government.

Your right, this isn't a fairness issue... you get your whole paycheck, and in turn you get charged a fee for buying things... For me I'd see almost $1200 more in my paycheck if I did that each cycle... and I could tell you right now I'd spend it on things we need, or save it for a larger purchase.

Taxes are blown out of proportion today, want to make it reasonable, take on usage, not on earnings... I earned the money, the government didn't.
I think you meant tax on usage not take on usage and if that is the case I agree 100%. However I do wonder what kind of impact this would have our our debt basis currency. Taxing usage and not income would incentivize the population as a hole to save vs spend. Our currency needs to expand which mean inflation is key and if we're saving and not spending the velocity of money will be slowed down...........
Which would not be a bad thing, this would force companies to reduce prices on products because the demand would not be there any more. This also would mean that products and high-ticket items would become more in-line to reality than theory.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:35 pm

adwinistrator wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Stocks are a bullshit way for Insiders to get your pension money. Unless you gamble on the flip of a coin, don't get involved.

You want to "invest," fix up a spare room to AirBnB.
You want to "invest," go to school to get an electrician's license.
You want to "invest," quit giving your relatives money, and buy a used car.
Brother Hash speaking truth!

I would add, index funds are one of the few reasonable market investments.
I'll be pumping every dime I've got into the SPY, after the next crash. Until then, putting sweat equity into my house.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:38 pm

adwinistrator wrote:I would add, index funds are one of the few reasonable market investments.
Index funds will get decimated in next downturn, for ex., majority of the companies in S&P will be sold into no bid.

The cap-weighted index funds will be a death trap.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:44 pm

apeman wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:I would add, index funds are one of the few reasonable market investments.
Index funds will get decimated in next downturn, for ex., majority of the companies in S&P will be sold into no bid.

The cap-weighted index funds will be a death trap.
Can't wait. I confess to the purchase of the occasional put spread, when I have some extra dough. :twisted:
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by adwinistrator » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:49 pm

apeman wrote:
adwinistrator wrote:I would add, index funds are one of the few reasonable market investments.
Index funds will get decimated in next downturn, for ex., majority of the companies in S&P will be sold into no bid.

The cap-weighted index funds will be a death trap.
It's always worth considering the reasons for someones public analysis of market trends.

If active managers are talking about how risky and dangerous passive management is, it should be clear why.

In any case, it all works the same, invest long term, don't sell in a down market.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:59 pm

The equity "bubble" or whatever will be worst in (1) the less-desirable companies in cap-weighted indexes (the median stock in the S&P 500 is the most expensive in history for obvious reasons)

and

(2) the top 5 or 10 or 20 biggest stocks, which account for most of the gains in overall market over past several years

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:02 pm

apeman wrote:The equity "bubble" or whatever will be worst in (1) the less-desirable companies in cap-weighted indexes (the median stock in the S&P 500 is the most expensive in history for obvious reasons)

and

(2) the top 5 or 10 or 20 biggest stocks, which account for most of the gains in overall market over past several years
Calling down Doom on the FANG? Bold move...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:37 pm

Well Trump just released his Tax Plan, and it's basically Reaganomics on steroids with no way to pay for it, so I wouldn't expect the money supply to be restricted anytime soon, because as far as public debt goes, Big Daddy Trump is going to make it rain, the universal solution to all populist overpromising.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:41 pm

*yip*