Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:07 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:This is literally how we integrated Europeans into a single ethnic identity we called American all the way up until the middle of the twentieth century.
Melting pot myth. American doesn't have to be white, 14th amendment, faggot. You're the one who needs to read a history book.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:12 am

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:This is literally how we integrated Europeans into a single ethnic identity we called American all the way up until the middle of the twentieth century.
Melting pot myth.
OMFG You are ignorant.

The melting pot idea is from the 20th century you tard.

You just claimed European immigrants were not integrated under the idea of a white identity. A cursory survey of American history shows that to be demonstrably false.

You really need to spend less time online and more time reading books, apparently.

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:16 am

cursory survey
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:19 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:This is literally how we integrated Europeans into a single ethnic identity we called American all the way up until the middle of the twentieth century.
Melting pot myth.
OMFG You are ignorant.

The melting pot idea is from the 20th century you tard.

You just claimed European immigrants were not integrated under the idea of a white identity. A cursory survey of American history shows that to be demonstrably false.

You really need to spend less time online and more time reading books, apparently.
14th amendment faggot. You're wrong. America has been Jus Soli for a while now, you are misinterpretating history to fit your bullshit narrative, square peg round hole style. American is not some pan-white identity, it's pan-whoeverisbornonamericansoil, since the 1860's, in your constitution, and that includes blacks, not just whites, that was the whole point of the amendment.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:28 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:You sat there and argued that European immigrants were not integrated here under the auspices of a wider white identity. I can show you where white identity was written into the fucking law, capps. Nonwhites were exterminated, enslaved, or locked into reservations. They were denied employment or even the ability to use the same door as whites.
A few laws don't mean that all white people saw themselves as white as opposed to the ethnic background they came from, you are arguing that white identity is more important to whites than their ethnic identity in America, and that is patently false. Teddy Roosevelt can rail against hyphenated Americans all he wants, it's still a thing, your melting pot is a myth.
Speaker to Animals wrote:And yet you want to pretend like this was some kind of multicultural nation back then? Fucking hell, man. You got so retarded in the past few years.
It was a multi-ethnic empire, just because the largest ethnicities were white ethnicities, doesn't mean it isn't multi-ethnic. There is more than one white ethnicity fucktard, you prefer a Multi-Ethnic Empire, as long as it is a Multi-Ethnic-White Empire, clown show.

A few laws!?

Dude, we genocided most of the inhabitants of North America and then removed by force the survivors to reservations where they were killed if they wandered off in large numbers. We enslaved Africans and the Supreme Court literally ruled that they were nothing more than talking farm animals. We wrote laws that explicitly set the prerogatives of whites as the default interest of the American government and we enacted other laws that imposed tough penalties for whites having sexual intercourse outside of our own race (while no such laws existed for the other races). For most of the 19th and 20th centuries, our immigration policy established quotas that selected European peoples while greatly reducing the non-Europeans who could come here. The Chinese were an exception because we wanted the closest thing to slaves we could get after the republicans outlawed slavery with a constitutional amendment. But those guys weren't allowed to live outside of their little Chinatown communities and they sure as shit weren't allowed to do anything but manual labor building railroads.

Americans invented white supremacy, you fucking clown. It was a horrible place to live if you were nonwhite. This is literally how we integrated Europeans into a single ethnic identity we called American all the way up until the middle of the twentieth century.

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:43 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:11/21/2017 - StA turns full SJW. The Doomsday Clock is moved to 11:59:30.
SIFCLF humor ftw.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:50 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:In America, our greatest periods of unity were during the Cold War - held under existential threat of annihilation, we had a single, (EVILE!!!) Other to fight against.
This is total horseshit. The country was tearing itself apart. It's the period of greatest civil unrest in American history.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:55 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:In America, our greatest periods of unity were during the Cold War - held under existential threat of annihilation, we had a single, (EVILE!!!) Other to fight against.
This is total horseshit. The country was tearing itself apart. It's the period of greatest civil unrest in American history.
And your pick for period of greatest American unity is when now?
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:07 am

DrYouth wrote:
StCapps wrote:It means that most viable White Ethno State in America, would be a German Ethno State, as opposed to some Pan-European Ethno State.
How could a White Ethno State in America be a "German Ethno State"?

Please elaborate.
It's going back to the idea of Anglo-Saxon vs Celt rather than how it's all been boiled down to just white.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by DrYouth » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:47 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
DrYouth wrote:
StCapps wrote:It means that most viable White Ethno State in America, would be a German Ethno State, as opposed to some Pan-European Ethno State.
How could a White Ethno State in America be a "German Ethno State"?

Please elaborate.
It's going back to the idea of Anglo-Saxon vs Celt rather than how it's all been boiled down to just white.
I'm still not getting this...

Is the premise that America was always a white ethno state (like Germany)... and it was a mistake allowing it to become a "multiethnic" state... and that this is the root of American instablilty?

Is that the premise?

In other words - America would have been better not abolishing slavery and not rolling back Jim Crow... and not allowing non-white immigration.

I just want to understand the competing arguments here....
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