“It’s ok to be white” 4chan campaign.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:17 am

Kath wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote: So can any retailer, or media outlet.
Our little fascist has a genuine belief that once a company reaches a certain status, the government should be able to dictate what they do/don't sell/offer and what prices they can/can't charge. He's very firm in his belief that this is the panacea.

That actually is how it works, Kath. Becoming a monopoly is not illegal, but using monopolistic powers to hurt competitors and consumers can trigger anti-trust action from the federal government.

I am just not convinced Google actually has a monopoly here. I am not even convinced it's possible.

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Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:19 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Kath wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote: So can any retailer, or media outlet.
Our little fascist has a genuine belief that once a company reaches a certain status, the government should be able to dictate what they do/don't sell/offer and what prices they can/can't charge. He's very firm in his belief that this is the panacea.

That actually is how it works, Kath. Becoming a monopoly is not illegal, but using monopolistic powers to hurt competitors and consumers can trigger anti-trust action from the federal government.

I am just not convinced Google actually has a monopoly here.
Dude, his threshold for the status is quite low. He wants Youtube regulated and forced by government to host content it doesn't want to host. That's not my vision for what government should be doing "for" me.
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Re: “It’s ok to be white” 4chan campaign.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:25 am

It's becoming clear that forum members should expect to speak/think only in binary terms, when dealing with StA. Things are Good/Evil, Right/Wrong, and American/Communist. There are no gray areas allowable. This simple misunderstanding seems to lead to a significant percentage of the disputes around here.

Basically, just speak to him like a toddler, and everything will be fine.
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Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:30 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's becoming clear that forum members should expect to speak/think only in binary terms, when dealing with StA. Things are Good/Evil, Right/Wrong, and American/Communist. There are no gray areas allowable. This simple misunderstanding seems to lead to a significant percentage of the disputes around here.

Basically, just speak to him like a toddler, and everything will be fine.
Our son and I get into it constantly. He claims I never listen to him, but he literally has no idea on what my positions are. As soon as I challenge him on a single point, he rushes to the conclusion that I'm an extremist on the other side. It finally occurred to me on Wednesday, when the Youtube thing came up, that arguing with my son is exactly like arguing with StA. He only knows the two extremes; there is no nuance, no middle ground. If you disagree with him on a single point, you are automatically against him in every other way possible.

So, I have to change tactics with him, because there is literally no getting through with that level of faulty logic wiring.
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Re: “It’s ok to be white” 4chan campaign.

Post by DBTrek » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:57 am

Oh, you mean like “You don’t want a government mandate that America be a majority white ethno-state? You’re obviously a proponent of committing genocide against whites!”
:lol:

Because if you don’t want the government dictating racial quotas, you obviously want to eradicate an entire race.

Yeah.

I think we’re all well aware of how it goes by now.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:14 am

lol. You guys are still really mad about having your assets handed to you in that thread. :lol:

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Post by DBTrek » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:18 am

And then there’s his denial issues.
Like claiming utter defeats as victories.
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Post by Heraclius » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:18 am

Speaker to Animals wrote: Not really. I wrote in very specific terms. Political correctness is the attempt to define what kinds of ideas are acceptable speech; to sow fear amongst people to even dare to speak dissent against whatever is "politically correct". It's literally a manifestation of totalitarianism.

You stated that people who opposed political correctness are "extremists" who are just the "flip side of the same coin" as the totalitarian SJWs.

Now you are saying no reasonable person is against freedom of speech or wants totalitarianism. To which I agree. But then you state that people who support freedom of speech and oppose totalitarianism are the "moderates". Moderated from what, exactly? How much freedom of speech do we have to surrender in order to become the "reasonable moderates"?

What you are posting is not really self-consistent. You come across as somebody who agrees with the politics of the SJWs but who is emberassed by the SJW's inability to actually bully dissenters into compliance any longer. You then go on to proclaim people who are anti-SJW (that is, anti-totalitarian), as really the same thing. It's a totally false framing of the situation and it doesn't survive basic scrutiny.

Opposing totalitarianism is not "extremism". I think you might identify with the political objectives of the SJWs but you realize their tactics are laughably ineffectual. I can think of no other way to integrate your assertion that opposing the totalitarianism of SJWs is itself a form of "extremism" that is the flip side of the coin from SJWs.
Totalitarianism - a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.

Do you think someone saying "You shouldn't really say retarded so freely, man" is LITERALLY a manifestation of complete loyalty to the state?
Eagerly awaiting you stating "first they came for the retard jokes, and I said nothing" to justify your ridiculous slippery slope here.

Again, most people aren't attempting to instill fear into others when they are politically correct. The sort that do, as I said, tend to fall into the extreme camps that think violence is an acceptable answer to rhetoric. People that lean towards PC are trying to create a fair and just environment by making sure people don't feel marginalized. People that lean towards being Anti-PC emphasize a sort of "everything goes" towards their conversations and create a similar fair environment by allowing everyone to feel attacked.

Let me word it concretely:
The Anti-PC people that consider brown people to be destroying the foundational pillars of the US because a specific melanin color is required to be able to appreciate those pillars, are the extremists. The PC people that consider white people to be an evil that set up these pillars in order to dominate the other races, are the other extremists.

Most reasonable people do not hold these opinions.

I kinda find it funny you think I agree with the politics of SJWs. I've never in my life been described as anything near an SJW, though I have been called a Nazi by some a couple times. I'm not really sure why you hold such a constricted view of others. It's like you're trying to alienate even those that agree on some of your principles because they aren't a true Scotsman. Either they are fully in your camp, or they're the enemy. Why label me as an SJW when you know nothing about me. I haven't even expressed my opinion on any political issue. I've provided information on the political climate within (my) university in order to add an additional layer of information to the topic.

This is how I figured you fall into the extremist category:
"Opposing totalitarianism is not "extremism"

Really just change a word and you got the SJW answer:
"Opposing Nazism is not "extremism"

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Re: “It’s ok to be white” 4chan campaign.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:22 am

DBTrek wrote:And then there’s his denial issues.
Like claiming utter defeats as victories.
:lol:
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Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:26 am

Heraclius wrote:I'm not really sure why you hold such a constricted view of others. It's like you're trying to alienate even those that agree on some of your principles because they aren't a true Scotsman. Either they are fully in your camp, or they're the enemy.
Nice summary of his MO.
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