Au Revoir, Paris Accord?

[C-Mag]

Snowden says Global Warming/Climate Change is a CIA deception operation and he has the documents to prove it.
https://rightedition.com/2016/03/16/sho ... -hoax-cia/

Mr. Snowden says the CIA first orchestrated the spread of the “Global Warming scare” in the 1950s, in order to divert the attention of the scientific community, from the dangers of the weapons race and reinforce its control over research institutes.
“I have documents showing that the CIA invented the whole thing,” claims Edward Snowden. “Global Warming was invented to both scare people, and divert their attention from other human-made dangers like nuclear weapons. The CIA gave millions of dollars to any scientist who would confirm the theory, so many unscrupulous scientists did what they were told in order to get the money. Now, there is so much fake data to confirm that Global Warming “exists”, that they actually convinced everyone that it was real.”

Sounds plausible, let's see the documents. Reinforces my belief that 90% of Warmists are full of shit.

[The Conservative]

Snowden says Global Warming/Climate Change is a CIA deception operation and he has the documents to prove it.
https://rightedition.com/2016/03/16/sho ... -hoax-cia/

Mr. Snowden says the CIA first orchestrated the spread of the “Global Warming scare” in the 1950s, in order to divert the attention of the scientific community, from the dangers of the weapons race and reinforce its control over research institutes.
“I have documents showing that the CIA invented the whole thing,” claims Edward Snowden. “Global Warming was invented to both scare people, and divert their attention from other human-made dangers like nuclear weapons. The CIA gave millions of dollars to any scientist who would confirm the theory, so many unscrupulous scientists did what they were told in order to get the money. Now, there is so much fake data to confirm that Global Warming “exists”, that they actually convinced everyone that it was real.”

Sounds plausible, let's see the documents. Reinforces my belief that 90% of Warmists are full of shit.

Hard to tell the difference when they don't bathe, don't groom and don't care about personal hygiene.

[jbird4049]

And I'm sure conservatives will continue to have zero ideas and zero solutions, and then swoop in and take credit for anything that works.
The world keeps turning.

Liberals dont have any ideas or solutions either. Except more government and more taxes. And then when it revealed that the whole thing was overstated and overhyped they swoop in and take credit for anything that works.
The world keeps turning.

I'll bet when China manages some sort of green technology boom and adds loads of value to their economy while the US continues to sink all available investment capital into unicorn start-ups, and wrings her hands over saving a fraction of ever less valuable coal jobs, that will be the dumb ol' stupid libtards fault too.

The elites, or the people with the money, aren't really that concerned about rising sea levels. Why should they be? It will just be an opportunity to invest in new beachfront property. Meanwhile the old beachfront is still here. The 99.9% who would be ruined by the loss of their land, water, food, in some cases entire countries, will just have to enjoy the invisible hand of the market.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I'll bet when China manages some sort of green technology boom and adds loads of value to their economy while the US continues to sink all available investment capital into unicorn start-ups, and wrings her hands over saving a fraction of ever less valuable coal jobs, that will be the dumb ol' stupid libtards fault too.

What's your basis for that?
It just seems like a strange prediction to make. When in the last 200 years has China out innovated the US or Western Culture ?

When Xi took over, he made some pretty ballsy claims about China's growth. If they want to hit those targets, it would be smart of them to position themselves as the provider of green tech to the rest of the world if America isn't going to bother prioritizing it. The rest of the world, stupid or not, and useless or not as the Paris Accord may be, is interested in working against climate change. Helps China economically and diplomatically to get all up in it.

China doesn't get lost in the weeds worrying about the justice of their economy. Left or right. They are very concerned with ending their 'century of humiliation' though.

It doesn't have to be China that starts out innovating the US in green technology, but someone is going to, and that is why I think it might be the CCP.

[C-Mag]

I'll bet when China manages some sort of green technology boom and adds loads of value to their economy while the US continues to sink all available investment capital into unicorn start-ups, and wrings her hands over saving a fraction of ever less valuable coal jobs, that will be the dumb ol' stupid libtards fault too.

What's your basis for that?
It just seems like a strange prediction to make. When in the last 200 years has China out innovated the US or Western Culture ?

When Xi took over, he made some pretty ballsy claims about China's growth. If they want to hit those targets, it would be smart of them to position themselves as the provider of green tech to the rest of the world if America isn't going to bother prioritizing it. The rest of the world, stupid or not, and useless or not as the Paris Accord may be, is interested in working against climate change. Helps China economically and diplomatically to get all up in it.

China doesn't get lost in the weeds worrying about the justice of their economy. Left or right. They are very concerned with ending their 'century of humiliation' though.

It doesn't have to be China that starts out innovating the US in green technology, but someone is going to, and that is why I think it might be the CCP.

OK, thanks.

I'm skeptical that China will ever be able to export real power. I just see no basis for in say the last 3,000 years. Definitely a huge regional power, but never a global power. One could make the case that they have been a global economic power though.

[C-Mag]

The elites, or the people with the money, aren't really that concerned about rising sea levels. Why should they be? It will just be an opportunity to invest in new beachfront property. Meanwhile the old beachfront is still here. The 99.9% who would be ruined by the loss of their land, water, food, in some cases entire countries, will just have to enjoy the invisible hand of the market.

Most of the Elites in the world have heavily invested in Climate Change, and have gotten great returns on that investment. Al Gore attempted the Chicago Carbon Exchange, but it failed. https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/ ... 81e4932dc9

I'm guessing most the Elites are investing in similar scams to trade hot air.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

What's your basis for that?
It just seems like a strange prediction to make. When in the last 200 years has China out innovated the US or Western Culture ?

When Xi took over, he made some pretty ballsy claims about China's growth. If they want to hit those targets, it would be smart of them to position themselves as the provider of green tech to the rest of the world if America isn't going to bother prioritizing it. The rest of the world, stupid or not, and useless or not as the Paris Accord may be, is interested in working against climate change. Helps China economically and diplomatically to get all up in it.

China doesn't get lost in the weeds worrying about the justice of their economy. Left or right. They are very concerned with ending their 'century of humiliation' though.

It doesn't have to be China that starts out innovating the US in green technology, but someone is going to, and that is why I think it might be the CCP.

OK, thanks.

I'm skeptical that China will ever be able to export real power. I just see no basis for in say the last 3,000 years. Definitely a huge regional power, but never a global power. One could make the case that they have been a global economic power though.

Well, last time China was absolute, undisputed, regional power, there was no such thing as a 'Global Hegemon,' so it is really hard to say.

Right now their problem is that they make their bills by pumping out concrete and metal, building empty cities and unused highways to get to them. That can work for a while, but not forever. I doubt China is ever going to even try to be the military overlord of the world. No point. You don't run the world by having the most boats or guns anymore, if you ever really did. They just like to build that shit because it is a good jobs program, and good optics.

We will see how this whole WPK thing shakes out... but I think that is really going to be Xi's chance to show he is a reliable, strong, level headed ally (assuming we don't all fuck it up, of course). Add to that being a team player on shit like the Paris Accords?

"[Insert Country Name] First" doesn't mean telling everyone else to fuck off. That is Trump's biggest fault when it comes to American interests, if you ask me. He just flat out says, "Eat shit and die faggots, we're looking out for number one!" Which is fun, but isn't how you actually work on your own interests when you need to actually work with said faggots on other stuff.

The Paris Accord was basically signaling without any real content... but guess what super geniuses, there is a reason virtue signaling is something humans engage in. Being a part of it is saying "yeah, you can work with us, we aren't going to be a bunch of petulant children about everything." It has next to nothing to do with actual climate change... those solutions come later.

/rant.. sorry, sorry everybody, carry one.

[C-Mag]

"[Insert Country Name] First" doesn't mean telling everyone else to fuck off. That is Trump's biggest fault when it comes to American interests, if you ask me. He just flat out says, "Eat shit and die faggots, we're looking out for number one!" Which is fun, but isn't how you actually work on your own interests when you need to actually work with said faggots on other stuff.

The Paris Accord was basically signaling without any real content... but guess what super geniuses, there is a reason virtue signaling is something humans engage in. Being a part of it is saying "yeah, you can work with us, we aren't going to be a bunch of petulant children about everything." It has next to nothing to do with actual climate change... those solutions come later.

/rant.. sorry, sorry everybody, carry one.

No need to be sorry, that's a good rant. +1

There's a lot in the Trump package deal I'm not thrilled about, Early Mornin Shitters Full Txts, Lil Kush suddenly an Insurgency War expert, Lobbing Missiles into Syria just cause. But I realize it's a package deal. He is an outsider and we need one badly, even him. Jumping off the Paris Climate Scam is a great indication of that. The more the media does their 90% Negative reporting on Trump, the more they push me into the Trump Camp.

Trump is a bullshit artist on a lot of stuff, but he clearly does believe in America First. That means something either positive or negative depending on your world view. To me it is positive, because we are an F'd up Empire on the Decline. If we are going to be able to take care of our country, citizens, immigrants and be an aid around the globe we need to fix ourselves first. That means first, fixing our budget and economy. Trump has the tools to do that, so let him do that.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

"[Insert Country Name] First" doesn't mean telling everyone else to fuck off. That is Trump's biggest fault when it comes to American interests, if you ask me. He just flat out says, "Eat shit and die faggots, we're looking out for number one!" Which is fun, but isn't how you actually work on your own interests when you need to actually work with said faggots on other stuff.

The Paris Accord was basically signaling without any real content... but guess what super geniuses, there is a reason virtue signaling is something humans engage in. Being a part of it is saying "yeah, you can work with us, we aren't going to be a bunch of petulant children about everything." It has next to nothing to do with actual climate change... those solutions come later.

/rant.. sorry, sorry everybody, carry one.

No need to be sorry, that's a good rant. +1

There's a lot in the Trump package deal I'm not thrilled about, Early Mornin Shitters Full Txts, Lil Kush suddenly an Insurgency War expert, Lobbing Missiles into Syria just cause. But I realize it's a package deal. He is an outsider and we need one badly, even him. Jumping off the Paris Climate Scam is a great indication of that. The more the media does their 90% Negative reporting on Trump, the more they push me into the Trump Camp.

Trump is a bullshit artist on a lot of stuff, but he clearly does believe in America First. That means something either positive or negative depending on your world view. To me it is positive, because we are an F'd up Empire on the Decline. If we are going to be able to take care of our country, citizens, immigrants and be an aid around the globe we need to fix ourselves first. That means first, fixing our budget and economy. Trump has the tools to do that, so let him do that.

I think we are basically on the same page.

The only difference is that I think what Trump gains from signalling to his fans that he is still on board with pissing off liberals is probably less valuable than what he gets by signalling to everyone else that America can be a team player. Especially if POTUS Trump is part of our Global Empire trying to take a knee and focus on domestic shit. When you aren't the Emperor anymore, it is probably a good idea not to burn all your bridges, since it pretty much guarantees you will have to rely on collaboration instead of simply handing out demands.