Battle of the Somme

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Smitty-48 wrote:
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I guess you got trolled then, Aspietard, cause here you are chasing me around again. /shrugs.
It's hard not to notice you on a site with this many active users.
You still talking about me, Aspieboy?

I'm the one contributing insight here, for whomever might be interested, and they can take it or leave it, but your sole contribution to this board is your aspergers syndrome retardation posting, and you really think I'm the one trying to get your attention?

So far, the thread has been fine, except for two useless fuckin' idiots, one the college dorm Snowflake, the other the resident Aspie, so if you two fuckwits would just quit trying to jack the thread to blather on pointlessly with your retardation; problem solved.
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California wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I'd say our men died in vain in both wars, though I personally consider them really the same conflict with an interbellum period.
I really think this will be the general view 500 years from now
I don't think the Westphalian Nation State will particularly relevant in 500 years, whether or not a comparitive handful of Americans died in vain right at the very end of the First World War won't even be viewed at all.

The First World War has incited the Age of General Relativity, the pace of human history has accellerated by many orders of magnitude, we've had more change in the last hundred years then we had in the previous ten thousand, on the current trajectory, in 500 years, the United States of America won't even exist.
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Smitty-48 wrote:
California wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I'd say our men died in vain in both wars, though I personally consider them really the same conflict with an interbellum period.
I really think this will be the general view 500 years from now
I don't think the Westphalian Nation State will particularly relevant in 500 years, whether or not a comparitive handful of Americans died in vain right at the very end of the First World War won't even be viewed at all.

The First World War has incited the Age of General Relativity, the pace of human history has accellerated by many orders of magnitude, we've had more change in the last hundred years then we had in the previous ten thousand, on the current trajectory, in 500 years, the United States of America won't even exist.
I'd be surprised if humans still exist, to be honest.
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I am not even convinced the United States will exist in 50 years, much less 500 years.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
California wrote: I really think this will be the general view 500 years from now
I don't think the Westphalian Nation State will particularly relevant in 500 years, whether or not a comparitive handful of Americans died in vain right at the very end of the First World War won't even be viewed at all.

The First World War has incited the Age of General Relativity, the pace of human history has accellerated by many orders of magnitude, we've had more change in the last hundred years then we had in the previous ten thousand, on the current trajectory, in 500 years, the United States of America won't even exist.
I'd be surprised if humans still exist, to be honest.
Depends on whether or not the Age of General Relativity brings itself down in a massive mutual countervalue exchange I suppose, but barring two stage fission-fusion self anihilation, in 500 years, I would guess that we would be well into a transhuman demarchy which will have transcended Westphalia entirely.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:I am not even convinced the United States will exist in 50 years, much less 500 years.
I think the USA has at least another century in the tank, but I don't think Westphalia is going to last too far into the 22nd century. It's not so much that the United States is going to implode, it's just going to become increasingly irrelevant along with all other Westphalian States, it will just evolve out of existence and become something else.
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For an analogy, it's like what is happening in military command and control, at one time, you needed sovereign-army-corps-division-regiment-battalion-company-platoon, but these days, you don't need any of those structures anymore, the military calls it "adaptive and dispersed" and that's a microcosm of the way everything is going.

There will always be hegenomies, but with a demarchy, they won't be bound to the top down centralized authority of a Westphalian Sovereign, we're already well into this process and experiencing the initial backlashes against right now.

Poeple tend to view it all as dystopian, but that's par for the course, 500 years ago people would view our world as a terrifying dystopia as well, and yet 500 years in the future people will view our Westphalian hegenomies like we view the Holy Roman Empire, totally irrevelant and quite absurd.
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I'm going to take over Germany.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
California wrote: I really think this will be the general view 500 years from now
I don't think the Westphalian Nation State will particularly relevant in 500 years, whether or not a comparitive handful of Americans died in vain right at the very end of the First World War won't even be viewed at all.

The First World War has incited the Age of General Relativity, the pace of human history has accellerated by many orders of magnitude, we've had more change in the last hundred years then we had in the previous ten thousand, on the current trajectory, in 500 years, the United States of America won't even exist.
I'd be surprised if humans still exist, to be honest.
Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I am not even convinced the United States will exist in 50 years, much less 500 years.
I think the USA has at least another century in the tank, but I don't think Westphalia is going to last too far into the 22nd century. It's not so much that the United States is going to implode, it's just going to become increasingly irrelevant along with all other Westphalian States, it will just evolve out of existence and become something else.
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