Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as Speaker?

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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by Fife » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:22 am

I don't blame you.

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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:33 am

Kath wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:Democrats are clinging to the presidential popular vote as their reason for keeping the status quo. In the process they will lose even more of the working middle class. They can turn Cali into North Mexico, but they will continue to lose middle America.
You guys need to quit pretending this is the first time ever that power has shifted. The Rs got full control 10 years ago and lost it again. The 40% of the country that has no true party allegiance gets bored with the tactics and votes differently the next time.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again. Hopefully, after 4 years of this clown, the electorate will demand a higher quality leader.
George W. Bush wasn't a one term president, what makes you think Trump will be? The Democrats will have to stop running around like a chicken with it's head cut off if they are going to field someone in 2020 who even has a chance. I think it takes at least 6-8 years for the Democrats to wake up, and that likely means two terms of Donald J Trump. It all flipping back in four years would actually be a far quicker shift than usual these days.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by LVH2 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:55 am

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jbird4049 wrote:What, expecting a sudden attack of reason? Don't be silly. :)

They're all too busy getting high off all those sweet, sweet "donations" she brings in to do anything more than re-arrange the deck chairs of their sinking ship.
I agree.
I don't think the Dems have much of a clue how to plug the holes in their sinking ship. They can look at the numbers and say, well, we need to go after Suburban voters. But I don't think it's that easy because the Dems have been preaching the same message for 50 years
They've changed a lot in the Clinton era, I think. They were a party that at least ostensibly represented the common people, unions, progressive taxation, public works, blah blah blah.

Now they damn near openly advocate the destruction of working and middle class jobs, and justify it with "white people are bad," bathroom wars and the evils of large sodas.

Clinton himself, like Obama, was successful because he was a charismatic figure who came from a humble background and seemed like a human being, as opposed to the super rich robo shill they usually run. However, they've spend most of that time getting crushed at every other level.

But now they get rich or richer individually, so who cares.

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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:58 am

StCapps wrote: George W. Bush wasn't a one term president, what makes you think Trump will be? The Democrats will have to stop running around like a chicken with it's head cut off if they are going to field someone in 2020 who even has a chance. I think it takes at least 6-8 years for the Democrats to wake up, and that likely means two terms of Donald J Trump. It all flipping back in four years would actually be a far quicker shift than usual these days.
You disagree with me even when we agree. :lol: Do you even read my posts or do you just make up in your head what I wrote and reply to that?

See my signature. Quit telling me what I think.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:01 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: George W. Bush wasn't a one term president, what makes you think Trump will be? The Democrats will have to stop running around like a chicken with it's head cut off if they are going to field someone in 2020 who even has a chance. I think it takes at least 6-8 years for the Democrats to wake up, and that likely means two terms of Donald J Trump. It all flipping back in four years would actually be a far quicker shift than usual these days.
You disagree with me even when we agree. :lol: Do you even read my posts or do you just make up in your head what I wrote and reply to that?

See my signature. Quit telling me what I think.
You were wishing for a one-term Trump presidency. You were hoping someone would come along in four years to be the real leader instead of just a clown. That's wishful thinking, and I will tell you so whenever I damn well please.
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Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:02 am

StCapps wrote: You were wishing for a one-term Trump presidency. You were hoping someone would come along in four years to be the real leader instead of just a clown. That's wishful thinking, and I will tell you so whenever I damn well please.
It's too early to tell - it could very well be 8 years. I doubt the Dems can pull a candidate that will matter before 2020. I'm more thinking that if he alienates the Repubs, that he could be challenged in the primary. We'll see. You can quit sucking his dick in front of me, I know how attached you are to Trump.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:03 am

LVH2 wrote:
Now they damn near openly advocate the destruction of working and middle class jobs, and justify it with "white people are bad," bathroom wars and the evils of large sodas.
I agree with most of your posts, but to be fair, it was the red team that started bathroom wars.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:07 am

Kath wrote:It's too early to tell - it could very well be 8 years. I doubt the Dems can pull a candidate that will matter before 2020. I'm more thinking that if he alienates the Repubs, that he could be challenged in the primary. We'll see. You can quit sucking his dick in front of me, I know how attached you are to Trump.
Anything that isn't 100% condemnation of Trump is dick sucking to you. A sitting president challenged in the primaries, what do you think this is 1968? That's even more wishful thinking than the Democrats putting up a candidate who will beat him. It is not too early to tell that those two outcomes you propose are quite the longshot compared to 8 years of Trump.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:08 am

You cannot reason with them.

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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by de officiis » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:10 am

Kath wrote:
kybkh wrote:
If that is what qualifies someone as racist, then the pool of racists you know just shrunk by 99%.
sigh. Never mind. Racism is more than someone who lynches people. I don't want to argue about it anymore, though.\
I think human beings are probably hard-wired to make judgments about other people based on externalities. Stereotypes have been around for a very long time and the reason why is because they are often useful and can make interactions with others more efficient. However, when a person uses stereotypes as a way to make value judgments about the "goodness" or "badness" of whole groups of other people, then they tip into racism. Avoiding racism involves recognition of one's use of stereotypes, coupled with a willingness to set them aside, approach other individuals with an open mind, and not impute characteristics or qualities to them before getting to know them. It is certainly acceptable to form judgments about the character of persons we know, because that is based on actual knowledge, not mere presumption.
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