And another one bites the dust...

[DBTrek]

No shit.
Like Saudi Arabia is a paragon of good decisions or something.

Some folks just can’t evolve past their grade school views of cooties I guess.

[Martin Hash]

The situation, as I've described before, is that power & control are zero-sum: somebody gains, somebody loses. In the balance of previous centuries, for practical reasons, women had their power, and men had theirs. In modern times, women have not relinquished any of their power & control but men have shared-and-shared until they undermined themselves. Democracies exaggerate the problem considerably.

[K@th]

We developed new problems from all this stuff too, that we don't seem to have answers to.
- We have today is we have a lot of kids being raised without both their parents. All the data shows that is bad for the kids.
-Men have little to no reproductive rights. If a man and a woman are in a relationship and the woman gets pregnant she can terminate that child without even telling him. She can leave and have the child and never tell him.
-Men and Women are not treated equally under the law in most states when it comes to legally disolving relationships and dealing with parenting.
-This stuff has created a lot of angry men and women out there

1. Agreed - this is a problem. There's no easy answers, because more often than not, two incomes are needed to raise a family. If only wages for the regular people kept up with the rising wages of the top.

2. Agreed, but what are options for fixing this? If we require women to get consent from the father, that doesn't resolve anything. A women who doesn't know who the father is or doesn't want the father to know can simply lie. She can bring in a male friend who will say what needs to be said. You can't make it illegal to be an asshole, which is what these types of women are. (Unless she has a legit reason to be scared of the father.)

3. This is changing rather rapidly. Shared custody is becoming more and more frequent. Also, it's important to always keep in mind that less than 5% of all divorce cases, including those with custody needs, are determined by a judge. The overwhelming majority of these cases are decided the the couple, outside of a courtroom.

4. I don't think this is related to women having the ability to have their own checking account.

[Speaker to Animals]

The problem is that women tend to make really bad decisions both individually and generally, and they are naturally combative so trying to point that out to them results in even more bad decisions on their part.

So do men. Testosterone isn't a mental superpower.

Yeah, but it's not nearly as dangerous. I would contend that the worst we do is start wars over stupid shit, whereas the worst women do is literally destroy civilization as they are doing in Europe with demographic replacement.

Germany survived losing two world wars. It won't survive it's women being enfranchised. Something to consider..

[K@th]

The situation, as I've described before, is that power & control are zero-sum: somebody gains, somebody loses. In the balance of previous centuries, for practical reasons, women had their power, and men had theirs. In modern times, women have not relinquished any of their power & control but men have shared-and-shared until they undermined themselves. Democracies exaggerate the problem considerably.

Not sure I know where you are coming from. Until the mid-70's, women couldn't be in charge of their own money. They could be in charge of what clothes the kids wore and what to make for dinner, but they weren't allowed to make any real decisions.

My mother was incredibly intelligent and wanted to go to college. She wasn't allowed, because it was decided for her, by a man, that she would get married and have kids. Taking the power away from men to decide if a woman can go to college isn't a bad thing.

[C-Mag]

Kath, why do you think Men and Women are so Angry. I don't get it personally. Well, I understand the guys perspective a little because some animals are more equal than other animals under the law when it comes to relationships. But I don't get why women are Angry.

[Martin Hash]

Obviously, evolutionarily testosterone is important, VERY important: societies & civilizations are apparently built on it. Enfranchisement has severely diluted the number of decisions based on testosterone. Probably, this will cause society to collapse.

[K@th]

Kath, why do you think Men and Women are so Angry. I don't get it personally. Well, I understand the guys perspective a little because some animals are more equal than other animals under the law when it comes to relationships. But I don't get why women are Angry.

A small subset of angry women are very loud and screechy. Most women are not angry. Are you faced with a barrage of hateful women in your life? I certainly am not. Most people are just going about their business, not worrying about these silly women in their stupid hats.

[Martin Hash]

The situation, as I've described before, is that power & control are zero-sum: somebody gains, somebody loses. In the balance of previous centuries, for practical reasons, women had their power, and men had theirs. In modern times, women have not relinquished any of their power & control but men have shared-and-shared until they undermined themselves. Democracies exaggerate the problem considerably.

Not sure I know where you are coming from. Until the mid-70's, women couldn't be in charge of their own money. They could be in charge of what clothes the kids wore and what to make for dinner, but they weren't allowed to make any real decisions.

My mother was incredibly intelligent and wanted to go to college. She wasn't allowed, because it was decided for her, by a man, that she would get married and have kids. Taking the power away from men to decide if a woman can go to college isn't a bad thing.

Agree. I don't have a solution.

[DBTrek]

Thomas Sowell says a nation that only enfranchises half the population is a nation that has thrown away half of their potential.

StA will say that men might give us the holocaust, but women suck at border control.

Guess which one is a revered intellectual and which is not.