Meanwhile in Ukraine

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I really expected them to perform better.

I'm shocked. They don't even have total air dominance yet.
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One of the better things he's said.

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I can't see why Americans would drive gas prices up for Americans by constraining oil supplies

when Ukraine is not America's responsibility

only the Democrats have adopted Ukraine as a proxy

Republicans who prop the Democrats up on this, can only be cucking hard RINO's
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Smitty-48 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:31 pm I can't see why Americans would drive gas prices up for Americans by constraining oil supplies

when Ukraine is not America's responsibility

only the Democrats have adopted Ukraine as a proxy

Republicans who prop the Democrats up on this, can only be cucking hard RINO's
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C-Mag wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:29 pm I really expected them to perform better.

I'm shocked. They don't even have total air dominance yet.
again, half measures

they only committed one third of their ground troops available

they sent T-72 instead of T-90

they sent MiG-29 instead of Su-35

they thought they could pull this off with their Tier 2 forces, holding their Tier 1 in reserve

now they are being forced to feed their reserve Battalion Tactical Groups into the fight

but that is not even being done decisively, not shock & awe

they haven't brought the whole 1st Guards Tank Army to bear at once

instead, they are cannibalizing Motor Rifle Battalions from it piecemeal

to feed them into the urban warfare meat grinder

they are literally doing everything wrong in this situation

because like you said, Putin doesn't have Generals, he has cronies
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America actually got into similar trouble with the invasion of Iraq

Rumsfeld wanted to do it on the cheap

so he didn't bring enough forces to bear

and even America got bogged down for awhile in OIF because of it
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remember Jessica Lynch ?

their convoy got ambushed ?

and the sandstorm came in, slowed air operations?

that was the bogged down phase of OIF
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Putin clearly expected to carve off eastern Ukraine within a few days. Shock and awe, take the capital, force concessions.

I don’t believe for a minute that he wants the entire country, just a buffer state in between.

Now that that hasn’t happened, I have no idea what the backup plan is.
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the next phase of escalation for the Russians is unrestricted air bombardment

bring everything you got, bomb the shit out of them

but they seem to be hesitant to do it

they are already international pariahs

but they are still trying to sell this to Russians as some sort of Humanitarian Intervention

so I would say the nature of the half measures is political

they are sort of caught between

they have embarked on a ruthless Soviet style land grab

but that is mixed with trying to emulate NATO in the political arena
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