THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:12 am

So is Trump turning liberal, now? I don't get it.

During the primaries, I thought he was playing a huge joke on all of us to point out the ridiculousness that is our federal government. I supported that message.

Then he got toxic and I turned on him.

Now I'm back to thinking he's having a huge laugh at our collective expense. He plays president for a few days, flies to Florida to golf, gets a 10 minute history lesson about some firm stance he has, changes his position when he learns that the issue is more complicated then he thought...

My head is spinning. Pick a side... is China good or bad? Is NATO good or bad? Is Assad good or bad? Is Russia good or bad? Seems he believes all those things are true at the same time. (or at least within a few minutes of each other.)
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:15 am

That's what I'm seeing too. Don't think Master Plan 4D chess, think aristocrat.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:18 am

I am just going back to prepping for civil and nuclear war, and trying to convince people that we need to break the country up. This obviously didn't pan out.

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Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:18 am

Martin Hash wrote:That's what I'm seeing too. Don't think it's a Master Plan 4D chess, think aristocrat.
He's on record praising the Clinton's, numerous times. Maybe he realized Hillary couldn't win so stepped in to help her agenda go forward? I dunno... it's bizarre.
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:43 am

The press coverage is so unbalanced on Trump it's difficult to get a read on things.
I'm just looking at Pro's and Con's and not panicking on anything. My biggest issue with Trump right now is Nepotism. A month ago I said I was unsure about this. Now, I'm definitely having a problem with it. I really don't like Little Kush doing anything with National Security.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:57 am

C-Mag wrote:The press coverage is so unbalanced on Trump it's difficult to get a read on things.
/shrug

The press really doesn't need to make shit up. Remember when he said he'd have cheaper healthcare that covered more people within a few days? Then, he realized it's complicated and said it loud and proud as if he was the first to figure that out.

Now? He gets a 10 minute history lesson from the president of China and tells us all that the N Korea situation is complicated. Errr... yes, Mr. President. Very good. You can have a gold star for passing your 10 minute history lesson.

The press isn't making this shit up, Carlus. These are the man's own words.
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:11 am

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:The press coverage is so unbalanced on Trump it's difficult to get a read on things.
/shrug

The press really doesn't need to make shit up. Remember when he said he'd have cheaper healthcare that covered more people within a few days? Then, he realized it's complicated and said it loud and proud as if he was the first to figure that out.

Now? He gets a 10 minute history lesson from the president of China and tells us all that the N Korea situation is complicated. Errr... yes, Mr. President. Very good. You can have a gold star for passing your 10 minute history lesson.

The press isn't making this shit up, Carlus. These are the man's own words.
Please Kath. Do I need to post Maddow's big Trump Tax story ? Do I need to go back and post the polls that showed Hillary in a landslide? Golden Showers? They take the smallest issue on Trump and blow it up with Fake News. They never took him seriously as a candidate, they've been embarrassingly wrong about just about every major story about Trump. They have gotten themselves in so deep with their negative coverage of Trump that they have bet the house on taking him down.

These are the same fucks that have sold you Yellow Cake.

All this doesn't mean Trump hasn't done improper things, but who the fuck can tell.
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Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:16 am

C-Mag wrote: Please Kath. Do I need to post Maddow's big Trump Tax story ?
Maddow isn't the press any more than Hannity & Limbaugh are.

The President of the United States went into office without knowing that healthcare is complicated and without knowing that the North Korea situation is complicated. Not only that, but he explains these realizations to us as if we didn't already know that. He's been living his life in a golden bubble and it shows.
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:38 am

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote: Please Kath. Do I need to post Maddow's big Trump Tax story ?
Maddow isn't the press any more than Hannity & Limbaugh are.

The President of the United States went into office without knowing that healthcare is complicated and without knowing that the North Korea situation is complicated. Not only that, but he explains these realizations to us as if we didn't already know that. He's been living his life in a golden bubble and it shows.
I gave you a laundry list of shit where the Corporate Press was wrong about Trump, and you pick Maddow to disprove it all................... Really ?

OK, the guy is being honest. Should that concern me :?
He admits he's not Carnac the Magnificent, he's human. All presidents learn complexities of these situations. BHO, W, BJ Clinton, none of them were omnipotent going into office. All of them missed stuff. But there is this intentional bias that any candidate without D after their name is stupid. That's what I see you playing up. Making the accusation that he is stupid. I don't buy it. I think the guy is very intelligent. I'm not sure a bubble is accurate. This is the first POTUS we've had without any government employment in his past. He broke the glass ceiling, it's a great experiment.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:31 am

C-Mag wrote: But there is this intentional bias that any candidate without D after their name is stupid. That's what I see you playing up. Making the accusation that he is stupid. I don't buy it.
How about lacking situational awareness? Did the press make up him saying he knows more than the generals? Did they make up that he promised health care would be cheaper and more inclusive within a few days? Did they make up him saying that nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated? Did they make up him saying that a 10-minute history lesson from the Chinese president showed him the N Korea situation is complicated? Did they make up his saying Nato is irrelevant, oh wait, no it's not? All of this is made up from the press? You believe this?

You are accusing the press of putting words in his mouth... words we have video of him saying. Are you accusing the press of making up videos of words coming out of Trump's mouth that he never said?

I just don't get it, Carlus. For eight years you bitched about every teeny tiny thing Obama did. When it was a big something, I was on your side.. see the clusterfuck that is ACA. I was never for that. But all the bitching about Obama playing golf? I didn't take that bait, then, and I haven't made a single comment about Trump's golf playing this year, even though he's on pace to break Obama's eight year golf travel budget in one year. I literally DGAF how often a president does/doesn't golf, but it was a YUGE deal during Obama's eight years, but now from the GOP? Not a peep. Not a single bitch about the golfing.

His WH is a hot mess. We know he used to be a democrat. Now I'm actively wondering if he always was and the bloviating during the campaign was just a way to cash in on the #neverHillary movement. He's done so much 180-ing on you guys....

Interesting times.
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