Long fucking hallway... that being said, I thought that was the Stanley Hotel.apeman wrote:What you implying grumps?
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- clean cut, athletic looking, white maintenance guy appears, almost 2 weeks after the shootingapeman wrote:What you implying grumps?
- claims he was shot at, and called it in 10 minutes before the mass shooting, wasn't reported
- was looking at 'a stuck fire door', along with event security guy, who doesn't work for Mandalay Bay
- was warned to take cover by security guard, who took unknown (I heard 30+) shots to the leg
- runs to cover, then "makes his way down the hallway" under automatic weapons fire, with 20-30 foot gaps between alcoves.
This is getting truly bizarre now.
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OK got it, you don't believe the maintenance worker's storyGrumpyCatFace wrote:- clean cut, athletic looking, white maintenance guy appears, almost 2 weeks after the shootingapeman wrote:What you implying grumps?
- claims he was shot at, and called it in 10 minutes before the mass shooting, wasn't reported
- was looking at 'a stuck fire door', along with event security guy, who doesn't work for Mandalay Bay
- was warned to take cover by security guard, who took unknown (I heard 30+) shots to the leg
- runs to cover, then "makes his way down the hallway" under automatic weapons fire, with 20-30 foot gaps between alcoves.
This is getting truly bizarre now.
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...or the security guard, or any of the rest of it. Something is afoot here.apeman wrote:OK got it, you don't believe the maintenance worker's storyGrumpyCatFace wrote:- clean cut, athletic looking, white maintenance guy appears, almost 2 weeks after the shootingapeman wrote:What you implying grumps?
- claims he was shot at, and called it in 10 minutes before the mass shooting, wasn't reported
- was looking at 'a stuck fire door', along with event security guy, who doesn't work for Mandalay Bay
- was warned to take cover by security guard, who took unknown (I heard 30+) shots to the leg
- runs to cover, then "makes his way down the hallway" under automatic weapons fire, with 20-30 foot gaps between alcoves.
This is getting truly bizarre now.
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IT would be a real tragedy if law enforcement is simply so inept that we are forced to assume there is a cover-up
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apeman wrote:IT would be a real tragedy if law enforcement is simply so inept that we are forced to assume there is a cover-up
Welcome to the world of the FBI.
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My friend emailed me:
Dunno anything about this, but maybe another piece that makes no senseHere is a thought re: Vegas Shooter
If he opened fire through the door at the maintenance guy and hit the security guard, why did the police still need explosives to breach the door?
door should have been splintered....maybe not to a million pieces, but, it surely would not have been intact.
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I think we need to fire everybody in the FBI and start over. I mean everybody.
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At least one person wants to hear my heroic story, so here it is.
I was playing poker at Caesars. Nobody knew about the shooting at Mandalay yet. However, word must have gotten out and the telephone game took hold.
So I'm sitting there, and I see some people running by. Then I hear people screaming "shooter shooter." And everyone in the poker room hits the deck. Many more people running away now.
I decided pretty quickly that the smart move was to bolt rather than hide. Stuck my head up like a gopher. Didn't see anything and I jumped over the little wall around the room and sprinted off. Furniture was being overturned (or something) to make banging noises. It didn't sound like guns to me but people screamed more and I thought "could be..." I figured there was a chance it was a false alarm. I thought it fairly obvious to bet on "this is real" and assume the worst.
So off I ran. I was very clear headed. Not very nervous or anything. I saw a lot of people pausing and looking back before running again, or stopping and starting, which I thought was dumb to the point of being weird.
Adrenaline might be over rated, at least in my case. I was pretty tired after sprinting through the casino. I decided to take the stairs rather than the elevator, up 8 levels to my car. I park on the top floor to get a little exercise. Didn't help that I was doing a 24 hour fast. I was just utterly gassed when I got to the top.
The good folks at CP recently decided to start charging for parking. Evidently, they never thought, "what happens if there's an emergency?" as many people were struggling to leave, having not stopped to pay for parking at the machine in the lobby.
So, I got on the road and already police where everywhere. They had most of the routes out shut down and were funneling us all in one direction. I got a machine gun pulled on me for trying to cut through the Luxor. From my perspective, the police and medics were all over the scene extremely quickly and in an organized fashion.
People driving away from the strip were 400x more courteous than normal. No gridlock at all!
At this point I was listening to the radio and heard about MB. Now, I was a lot more emotional because 1) That news in itself was terrible. 2) I thought there might have been a real shooter and CP where I have many friendly acquaintances. After a while, it became clear that it was just a false alarm.
No local radio station had altered coverage to give full updates or instructions. I was just listening to national coverage on Coast to Coast, Fox. NPR was piping in the BBC. This was all for over an hour after the attack. I thought this was a failure.
I went back a couple days later to claim my money. They had a book of cowards who had fled and how much they'd left behind.
Today, driving for Uber, I took a woman from Maryland to the hospital. Her sister was in the hospital from the shooting still. She had bought her dad some edibles at one of the new dispensaries. She said they were going to move her sister back home pretty soon.
I was playing poker at Caesars. Nobody knew about the shooting at Mandalay yet. However, word must have gotten out and the telephone game took hold.
So I'm sitting there, and I see some people running by. Then I hear people screaming "shooter shooter." And everyone in the poker room hits the deck. Many more people running away now.
I decided pretty quickly that the smart move was to bolt rather than hide. Stuck my head up like a gopher. Didn't see anything and I jumped over the little wall around the room and sprinted off. Furniture was being overturned (or something) to make banging noises. It didn't sound like guns to me but people screamed more and I thought "could be..." I figured there was a chance it was a false alarm. I thought it fairly obvious to bet on "this is real" and assume the worst.
So off I ran. I was very clear headed. Not very nervous or anything. I saw a lot of people pausing and looking back before running again, or stopping and starting, which I thought was dumb to the point of being weird.
Adrenaline might be over rated, at least in my case. I was pretty tired after sprinting through the casino. I decided to take the stairs rather than the elevator, up 8 levels to my car. I park on the top floor to get a little exercise. Didn't help that I was doing a 24 hour fast. I was just utterly gassed when I got to the top.
The good folks at CP recently decided to start charging for parking. Evidently, they never thought, "what happens if there's an emergency?" as many people were struggling to leave, having not stopped to pay for parking at the machine in the lobby.
So, I got on the road and already police where everywhere. They had most of the routes out shut down and were funneling us all in one direction. I got a machine gun pulled on me for trying to cut through the Luxor. From my perspective, the police and medics were all over the scene extremely quickly and in an organized fashion.
People driving away from the strip were 400x more courteous than normal. No gridlock at all!
At this point I was listening to the radio and heard about MB. Now, I was a lot more emotional because 1) That news in itself was terrible. 2) I thought there might have been a real shooter and CP where I have many friendly acquaintances. After a while, it became clear that it was just a false alarm.
No local radio station had altered coverage to give full updates or instructions. I was just listening to national coverage on Coast to Coast, Fox. NPR was piping in the BBC. This was all for over an hour after the attack. I thought this was a failure.
I went back a couple days later to claim my money. They had a book of cowards who had fled and how much they'd left behind.
Today, driving for Uber, I took a woman from Maryland to the hospital. Her sister was in the hospital from the shooting still. She had bought her dad some edibles at one of the new dispensaries. She said they were going to move her sister back home pretty soon.
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Yes, sort of. If you are retired or something, you can grind out a few dollars an hour fairly easily.Hastur wrote:Are we supposed to believe this guy made a living playing video poker? Is that even statistically possible?
Gambling is good way to launder money though. He was a former IRS guy so he would now the best way to do it.
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Higher level players can make good money doing VP mixed with other stuff, mainly by exploiting casino promos.
I don't think this guy really did that. Local expert Anthony Curtis said he was most likely just a guy who lost in VP but made most or all of it back in comps.
I tend to think he was actually a losing player and perhaps lost it all.