Unite the Right

[Speaker to Animals]

There's no middle ground here. Other people's culture is not there for you to "compromise" out of existence. Think about what you are saying here.

[Speaker to Animals]

If you guys have such a raging boner for eradicating cultures, then just go full-hog and join ISIS already. Get it over with.




That's what you are doing here.

[apeman]

You? You obviously aren't talking to me.

You are wayyy beyond missing my point now, to the point of proving it

several pages ago I wrote a screed against tearing down monuments like Jefferson et al, compared it to the red guard, you know my political bias, I don't tell anyone how to live or what to do.

The point is that there is no attempt at compromise and discussion. THERE IS NO ATTEMPT. And I blame the crazed left for preferring mob violence instead of using words

Those are necessary if we are gonna have a union

(even the disclaimer I put in there to keep your blood pressure from spiking was ineffective)

[Okeefenokee]

World war 1 was about some prince and world war 2 was about the jews.

DB has assured me that if you can show a reference to something that you can simply chalk that up as the entire explanation for a war.

No need for a full understanding, or even history majors, when we can make kindergarten explanations that fit on a postage stamp.

[DBTrek]

OK, trying to be reasonable here, I don't like tearing down monuments and statues like some crazed member of the Red Guard, but I would be open to a discussion about removing certain confederate monuments. A discussion. I could be convinced.* It is possible.

Man . . . I hate to give the alt right ammo like this. In fact, I've been keeping this one to myself for a few days, simply because I know it's a rhetorical bomb that will be abused by radicals instead of being used as a tool by reasonable people. Fuck. . . even now I'm hesitant to raise the point, but here we go.

If we're going to start tearing down the symbols of regional cultures on account of "They were enemies of the United States" - then it's time to bust chainsaws out on every native American totem pole, blast every cliffside dwelling, and smelt every Indian Head Penny into molten copper, right? The United States fought how many battles against Native Americans, and yet we preserve statues of them, the totem poles of their people, cliff side dwellings of their ancestors, on and on, etc. So - by Antifa and SJW logic - aka every symbol of the enemies of the United States be removed, it's high time we get to purging all traces of Native Americans from our public spaces, right?

Now OBVIOUSLY I think this is a horrible, backward, Taliban-esque idea. You'd probably be hard pressed to find even a single SJW on board with bulldozing all emblems and reminders of Native American culture from our public spaces (thus the hypocrisy). So I make this argument simply to point out that "THEY WERE ENEMIES OF AMERICA" is an excuse that's being very selectively used to annihilate any traces of the Confederate South from our public spaces, but is not being applied anywhere else.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Wonder what an SJW does upon walking into a "tribal" casino..

[Okeefenokee]

The DB school of history taught me that the American revolution was simply a disagreement over the price of tea, and nothing else.

Man, this would be a much easier major.

The Spanish American War all boils down to a coal fire, really. Nothing more to it. And that concludes my thesis.

[apeman]

IF we could talk,

the crazed left would try to articulate the problem without smears, name-calling and the ubiquitous "I'm better than you" posturing
IF they have a rational argument -- then articulate it. Put down the baseball bats and try to persuade fellow citizens.

How perfect must a man be to be allowed a statute?

But everything gotta be black and white -- Robert E Lee was not a cartoon goon, felt great loyalty to his state but great misgivings about slavery

But the people making these decisions to remove shit by force will never have to confront any of this, they are simply better than us all, and even asking these questions would make me hitler

[DBTrek]

The DB school of history taught me that the American revolution was simply a disagreement over the price of tea, and nothing else.

Man, this would be a much easier major.

The Spanish American War all boils down to a coal fire, really. Nothing more to it. And that concludes my thesis.

The Okee school of simpleton history also picks a single reason for the Civil War. It simply picks the wrong one.
/shrug

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

OK, trying to be reasonable here, I don't like tearing down monuments and statues like some crazed member of the Red Guard, but I would be open to a discussion about removing certain confederate monuments. A discussion. I could be convinced.* It is possible.

Man . . . I hate to give the alt right ammo like this. In fact, I've been keeping this one to myself for a few days, simply because I know it's a rhetorical bomb that will be abused by radicals instead of being used as a tool by reasonable people. Fuck. . . even now I'm hesitant to raise the point, but here we go.

If we're going to start tearing down the symbols of regional cultures on account of "They were enemies of the United States" - then it's time to bust chainsaws out on every native American totem pole, blast every cliffside dwelling, and smelt every Indian Head Penny into molten copper, right? The United States fought how many battles against Native Americans, and yet we preserve statues of them, the totem poles of their people, cliff side dwellings of their ancestors, on and on, etc. So - by Antifa and SJW logic - aka every symbol of the enemies of the United States be removed, it's high time we get to purging all traces of Native Americans from our public spaces, right?

Now OBVIOUSLY I think this is a horrible, backward, Taliban-esque idea. You'd probably be hard pressed to find even a single SJW on board with bulldozing all emblems and reminders of Native American culture from our public spaces (thus the hypocrisy). So I make this argument simply to point out that "THEY WERE ENEMIES OF AMERICA" is an excuse that's being very selectively used to annihilate any traces of the Confederate South from our public spaces, but is not being applied anywhere else.