Meanwhile in Ukraine

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what if they get a ceasefire ?

what if the fight is halted in the near term ?

Ukraine will then start building up with the backing of NATO

to launch an all out counteroffensive at some point

to drive the Russians out everywhere, to include taking Crimea back

so it doesn't stop now

it keeps going

in one direction or the other

there is no middle ground now
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on this trajectory

NATO will at some point start arming Ukraine with the heavy weapons

Abrams

Apache

F-16

then the Russians are in really serious trouble, way in over their heads
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the whole Ukraine in NATO thing is a fallacy

they don't have to be in NATO

Non NATO Military Ally (NNMA)

like Taiwan or Australia

Abrams

Apache

F-16
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in the clickbait media, Russia is way overrated

NATO is way underrated

that gets the clicks

but in reality ?

if Ukraine just had F-16 right now, with NATO missiles ?

the Russians would be getting swept from the skies in a rout
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the Russian fighters are great for airshows

they can do all sort of aerobatics for the crowds

but in combat, avionics, radar, missiles, useful combat performance ?

they don't stand a chance against F-16
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Russian tanks, against M1A2 Abrams ?

nolo contendere, the Russians will get slaughtered just like the Iraqi Republican Guard
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Just your average Slav, out for a stroll, smokin, jokin, picks up an anti tank mine and carries it off the road.


I can't see many Westerners doing this.
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look at these pathetic Russians

broken down on the side of the road

in their junky T-72's

and they ran out of gas ?

seriously, if Ukraine had NATO heavy weapons, M1A2 Abrams ?

the Russians would be getting annihilated right now
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this is what I thought back in the Cold War in the late 80s

in West Germany

when I first saw the new kit showing up

Abrams, Apache, F-16

just as a troop in the ranks, watching all this kit perform on exercise

I thought : if the Soviets actually come over the Trace ?

we are going to kick their asses
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it's like we used to call the Abrams "Whispering Death"

because of the jet engine, it's very quiet

but really the problem was that they had the far more advanced sensors and fire control

so they could see us, but we couldn't see them

same problem for the Russians
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