what if they get a ceasefire ?
what if the fight is halted in the near term ?
Ukraine will then start building up with the backing of NATO
to launch an all out counteroffensive at some point
to drive the Russians out everywhere, to include taking Crimea back
so it doesn't stop now
it keeps going
in one direction or the other
there is no middle ground now
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on this trajectory
NATO will at some point start arming Ukraine with the heavy weapons
Abrams
Apache
F-16
then the Russians are in really serious trouble, way in over their heads
NATO will at some point start arming Ukraine with the heavy weapons
Abrams
Apache
F-16
then the Russians are in really serious trouble, way in over their heads
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the whole Ukraine in NATO thing is a fallacy
they don't have to be in NATO
Non NATO Military Ally (NNMA)
like Taiwan or Australia
Abrams
Apache
F-16
they don't have to be in NATO
Non NATO Military Ally (NNMA)
like Taiwan or Australia
Abrams
Apache
F-16
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in the clickbait media, Russia is way overrated
NATO is way underrated
that gets the clicks
but in reality ?
if Ukraine just had F-16 right now, with NATO missiles ?
the Russians would be getting swept from the skies in a rout
NATO is way underrated
that gets the clicks
but in reality ?
if Ukraine just had F-16 right now, with NATO missiles ?
the Russians would be getting swept from the skies in a rout
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the Russian fighters are great for airshows
they can do all sort of aerobatics for the crowds
but in combat, avionics, radar, missiles, useful combat performance ?
they don't stand a chance against F-16
they can do all sort of aerobatics for the crowds
but in combat, avionics, radar, missiles, useful combat performance ?
they don't stand a chance against F-16
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Russian tanks, against M1A2 Abrams ?
nolo contendere, the Russians will get slaughtered just like the Iraqi Republican Guard
nolo contendere, the Russians will get slaughtered just like the Iraqi Republican Guard
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Just your average Slav, out for a stroll, smokin, jokin, picks up an anti tank mine and carries it off the road.
I can't see many Westerners doing this.
I can't see many Westerners doing this.
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look at these pathetic Russians
broken down on the side of the road
in their junky T-72's
and they ran out of gas ?
seriously, if Ukraine had NATO heavy weapons, M1A2 Abrams ?
the Russians would be getting annihilated right now
broken down on the side of the road
in their junky T-72's
and they ran out of gas ?
seriously, if Ukraine had NATO heavy weapons, M1A2 Abrams ?
the Russians would be getting annihilated right now
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this is what I thought back in the Cold War in the late 80s
in West Germany
when I first saw the new kit showing up
Abrams, Apache, F-16
just as a troop in the ranks, watching all this kit perform on exercise
I thought : if the Soviets actually come over the Trace ?
we are going to kick their asses
in West Germany
when I first saw the new kit showing up
Abrams, Apache, F-16
just as a troop in the ranks, watching all this kit perform on exercise
I thought : if the Soviets actually come over the Trace ?
we are going to kick their asses
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it's like we used to call the Abrams "Whispering Death"
because of the jet engine, it's very quiet
but really the problem was that they had the far more advanced sensors and fire control
so they could see us, but we couldn't see them
same problem for the Russians
because of the jet engine, it's very quiet
but really the problem was that they had the far more advanced sensors and fire control
so they could see us, but we couldn't see them
same problem for the Russians
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