The Left Does not Reason

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:12 pm

jbird, you keep acting as if those so-called "anarchists" were somehow party crashers that had nothing to do with the democratic party.

The democratic party has been contracting out violence from them for over a year now. That's what Project Veritas proved with their undercover videos. The democratic party pays to bus these degenerates to the location so they can inflict political violence on conservatives. Then the democratic mayors order the police to stand down so Antifa can actually get away with it with impunity.

This is exactly the same tactics the democrats engaged in in the 1960s when democratic party mayors and police chiefs turned a blind eye to their KKK buddies beating down civil rights workers. We have a federal law that criminalized this behavior now, and I hope to God the Trump Justice Department takes these crooked democrats to court over it.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:26 pm

The Left's agenda is to make their priorities my priorities: that's the nature of control. Unfortunately, their main objectives, social justice for example, is exactly opposite my ideology, so they will need to enforce it with violence, which is why they want The State to have a monopoly on violence, hence gun control.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:58 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:jbird, you keep acting as if those so-called "anarchists" were somehow party crashers that had nothing to do with the democratic party.

The democratic party has been contracting out violence from them for over a year now. That's what Project Veritas proved with their undercover videos. The democratic party pays to bus these degenerates to the location so they can inflict political violence on conservatives. Then the democratic mayors order the police to stand down so Antifa can actually get away with it with impunity.

This is exactly the same tactics the democrats engaged in in the 1960s when democratic party mayors and police chiefs turned a blind eye to their KKK buddies beating down civil rights workers. We have a federal law that criminalized this behavior now, and I hope to God the Trump Justice Department takes these crooked democrats to court over it.
I'm pretty sure they're not, but I've been wrong before, plus Sanders and Trump. I know Democratic Party corruption sank Sanders. So send any links you think I should see. It's worth checking out.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:00 pm

Well, they are. Democratic party contractors are on video admitting they do it.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:13 pm

Martin Hash wrote:The Left's agenda is to make their priorities my priorities: that's the nature of control. Unfortunately, their main objectives, social justice for example, is exactly opposite my ideology, so they will need to enforce it with violence, which is why they want The State to have a monopoly on violence, hence gun control.
Which "Left" are you talking about? If I talk about the "Right" as a seamless whole with a united leadership, you would probably disagree. Indeed, the leadership, and especially the ideology, are much the same. How easy is it to distinguish between the ideology of neoconservatism and neoliberalism? Whatever small differences one can see are magnified to excite their bases in elections, and mostly ignored otherwise. They also both follow the Washington Consensus.

One of the reasons all the mainstream candidates lost is because they were all smarmy clones with their little smirks pretending that they cared about us.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Mercury » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:25 pm

jbird4049 wrote: How easy is it to distinguish between the ideology of neoconservatism and neoliberalism? Whatever small differences one can see are magnified to excite their bases in elections, and mostly ignored otherwise.
Yes. One is just the other in drag.
jbird4049 wrote:
One of the reasons all the mainstream candidates lost is because they were all smarmy clones with their little smirks pretending that they cared about us.
You are on to something...
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:45 pm

From The Hash Dictionary:
"Socialism is group over individual." This is The Left.
I am a Democrat but I am not A Lefty, though my Party is infested with them; Bernie Sanders supporters, for example. I'm Liberty focused, individual over group, which is the opposite of Lefties. What's confusing is that's NOT The Right. The Right is Libertarian & aristocratic.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:21 pm

Mercury wrote:
jbird4049 wrote: How easy is it to distinguish between the ideology of neoconservatism and neoliberalism? Whatever small differences one can see are magnified to excite their bases in elections, and mostly ignored otherwise.
Yes. One is just the other in drag.
jbird4049 wrote:
One of the reasons all the mainstream candidates lost is because they were all smarmy clones with their little smirks pretending that they cared about us.
You are on to something...
I will just have to remember that bit about being in drag. :lol:
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:26 am

Martin Hash wrote:From The Hash Dictionary:
"Socialism is group over individual." This is The Left.
I am a Democrat but I am not a Lefty, though my Party is infested with them; Bernie Sanders supporters, for example. I'm Liberty focused, individual over group, which is the opposite of Lefties. What's confusing is that's NOT The Right. The Right is Libertarian & aristocratic.
Okay that's more nuanced. I think you mischaracterize Sanders as his focus seems to be first, and last, about the concentration of wealth, and power, into an ever smaller group while the rest suffer. I agree that too many in the Democratic Party seem to be concerned about giving ever more rights to without being conserved about the rights of the everyone. Libertarians seem to me not always even aware, never mind care about the consequences of things like wealthy inequality. So long as the individual's rights are respected, everything else can go hang. Aristocratic seems to be like the English class system. You are were you are, and you stay were you are and mind your betters.

What ever labels we give them, and whatever they say they stand for, I think the political institutions are not concerned about the rights or welfare of others. I can walk down the street in San Francisco and see the mentally ill marinating in their own filth. There are small tent cities, and people living in their vehicles. Most all of them have jobs, but no home. We are one of richest areas in the richest country, yet this happens. It's been happening for years and yet it's all trans rights, WTF? I happen to agree, but I agree more for getting the mentality ill off the streets. Many of them could have good lives including jobs and families with just a little help, or building something for the homeless.' Or what about the violence in the East Bay? Much of it could be stopping with programs like the violence interrupters? The program is not sexy, and mainly involves talking. What about the legal system that has serious problems throughout the state but especially in Southern California, but it's trans rights.

Many on the "Right" and on the "Left" too claim they can about the individual, but I do not see it. Which ever Party is in power people get poorer, our rights mean less, and the wealthy grows evermore powerful. All he laws that protect the weak get discarded while new ones are made to protect the powerful/
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:33 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Well, they are. Democratic party contractors are on video admitting they do it.
I'm not doubting your honesty. God knows our entire system is one corrupt mess, especially on the national level, and the mainstream media has problems. Please just give me some suggestions.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.