Unite the Right

[Smitty-48]

Session is making a good political move.Like the way Sessions has played his cards in the Trump administration. Quite good maneuvering. Once the meetings came up with the Russians, the instant recusal showed that Session understood of where things were going. Then Trump berating him got all the Republicans to stand by him and even the thought of him to be fire got the Republicans totally in support of him. Now if he'll push aggressively here, he can fight old accusations about him. Because nobody likes neonazis, even if they are republicans.

I don't think this is having any effect on Trump either way, the whole Charlottesville Nazis = Trump narrative is entirely inside the liberal bubble, on the Right, nobody fuckin' cares, other than wanting to see Antifa crushed, not necessarily by Nazis driving cars mind you, preferably with troops and tanks. If you're a Right Wing Nutjob, you're not going to shed any tears about Anarcho-Bolshevists being killed, you just want it to be handled professionally.

When you say "Republicans", you mean in congress, but is that even the party anymore? Trump's base is the party now, and they don't give a shit if some Antifa got run over, and if Sessions and the Reps in congress call it "terrorism", without calling Antifa terrorists too? I'd say they'd be making a mistake, because that would be aligning themselves with the liberals against the GOP base.

If you're GOP, you need to be going hard after Antifa and BLM, that's what the base wants, Neonazis? Even if they don't sympathize with that, they don't care neither. The liberals ignore Antifa and focus on the Nazis, but the Right is the opposite about it. If some clown crashes his car into a crowd, of course he's going to be arrested and prosecuted, but that's not going to buy you anything with the base, if you just let Antifa/BLM run amok.

Who is Sessions supposed to be buying credit with, liberals and cucks? Yeah I don't that's actually a good political move anymore, for any politician on the Right. Just because people on the Right are not necessarily sympathetic to Neonazis, doesn't mean they give two shits about what liberals and cucks think anymore.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Literally every combat veteran on this forum is a Southron. It's a very large trend.

Well idk about clubby. And I guess smitty is only Southron at heart.

I know man.

Also, I got deep roots in the South... family-wise. Some of them have served.

If you accused them of having traitorous ideas about abandoning their duties to fight against the US, well... you might find it was time to show yourself the door.

Just surprised. I'd be insulted.

It's not treasonous if the "US" is not adhering to the constitution, in the face of the unconstitutional tyranny of repressive bolshevists, technically it would be their solemn duty to fight against it.

I mean, I'm not even a republican, but even Her Majesty defends the right to fight against that.

Are we talking about duly elected repressive bolshevists, or the kind that hide in secret and can only be seen with special spectacles?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It's absurd that a city council could vote 3-2 to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee, with just the mayor casting the deciding vote, one person can decide such an obviously and known to be contentious issue? It's no wonder there's unrest, deciding things like that, on issues like this, inherently leads to trouble, 3-2 vote is no mandate to decide something like that, that's a recipe for all heck breaking loose.

Shit, you want more than 60/40 for a mandate?

We ain't gonna get nothin' done!

[Smitty-48]

I know man.

Also, I got deep roots in the South... family-wise. Some of them have served.

If you accused them of having traitorous ideas about abandoning their duties to fight against the US, well... you might find it was time to show yourself the door.

Just surprised. I'd be insulted.

It's not treasonous if the "US" is not adhering to the constitution, in the face of the unconstitutional tyranny of repressive bolshevists, technically it would be their solemn duty to fight against it.

I mean, I'm not even a republican, but even Her Majesty defends the right to fight against that.

Are we talking about duly elected repressive bolshevists, or the kind that hide in secret and can only be seen with special spectacles?

Once you go Declaration of Independance, individual soveriegnty, and revolutionary republic? Anything goes really, there's no actual rules, America is actually quite fluid and always has been, basically, if you get enough critical mass, you can do whatever you want, it's not like there's a Crown and a Westphalian order in America.

This is why people in America freak out when things start to drift, because in reality, there's nothing actually stopping things from drifting into revolutionary territory, even if not by force of arms.

[Smitty-48]

It's absurd that a city council could vote 3-2 to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee, with just the mayor casting the deciding vote, one person can decide such an obviously and known to be contentious issue? It's no wonder there's unrest, deciding things like that, on issues like this, inherently leads to trouble, 3-2 vote is no mandate to decide something like that, that's a recipe for all heck breaking loose.

Shit, you want more than 60/40 for a mandate?

We ain't gonna get nothin' done!

If you're going to decide an issue which has the potential to incite civil unrest, I think you seek a mandate beyond the vote of 5 people. 60/40 mandate would be more reasonable, if it was a state wide referendum, trying to pretend that this issue is at the level of a city council, is disengenous, obviously Confederate heritage is a bigger issue than just Charlottesville, and since all heck can break loose, might want to treat it that way.

[Smitty-48]

It's like when Milspecs said that I "don't share the mores and taboos" of Americans, but what she's really talking about, is the explosive tension in American society which is always there right under the surface, you have these protocols, because if things start to burn, they can quickly burn out of control, so nobody wants to touch the third rail most of the time, but that doesn't mean a bazillion volts aren't going through that highly charged rail at all times.

Now, I don't share those protocols, none the less, I would say that allowing one liberal politican to cast the deciding vote to unhorse and unhead Robert E. Lee in Virginia, is playing with fire, and already it has gotten someone killed.

[Hastur]

What the actuall fuck?



This shit pisses me off to no end. Who gives them the right to do this? This is outside a courthouse on Main Street - Where's the police?

[Smitty-48]

What the actuall fuck?


This shit pisses me off to no end. Who gives them the right to do this? This is outside a courthouse on Main Street - Where's the police?

I'd say the police are just cowed by the liberal media, same thing with the military brass, all they care about is avoiding bad press, so whatever the media is sympathetic to, the police and military basically play along, and BLM/Antifa/#Resistance are of course the darlings of the liberal media, so they pretty much have the green light to run amok, and clearly they are aware.

[ssu]

I don't think this is having any effect on Trump either way, the whole Charlottesville Nazis = Trump narrative is entirely inside the liberal bubble, on the Right, nobody fuckin' cares, other than wanting to see Antifa crushed, not necessarily by Nazis driving cars mind you, preferably with troops and tanks. If you're a Right Wing Nutjob, you're not going to shed any tears about Anarcho-Bolshevists being killed, you just want it to be handled professionally.

Ordinary people dislike both anarcho-bolshevists and right wing nutjobs. True conservatives like law & order and things to be peaceful and that honest people can live their life. In such peaceful times as now protesters of any notion are a tiny crowd, usually those who don't have a job and nothing else to do but hyperventilate about minor issues.

You go to a Republican voter somewhere and ask if reads Mein Kampf and agrees Hitler, he or she will take it as a slander.

When you say "Republicans", you mean in congress, but is that even the party anymore? Trump's base is the party now, and they don't give a shit if some Antifa got run over, and if Sessions and the Reps in congress call it "terrorism", without calling Antifa terrorists too? I'd say they'd be making a mistake, because that would be aligning themselves with the liberals against the GOP base.

Republicans support a Republican president. The approval rating has usually been in the 90% - 80% range. That's how easy it is. Trumps support among Republicans is what, 79%? Because he hasn't got any legislation through and not much to show (other than there hasn't been stock market crash and thus the economy is humming along). The neonazis are a tiny fraction there.

If you're GOP, you need to be going hard after Antifa and BLM, that's what the base wants, Neonazis? Even if they don't sympathize with that, they don't care neither. The liberals ignore Antifa and focus on the Nazis, but the Right is the opposite about it. If some clown crashes his car into a crowd, of course he's going to be arrested and prosecuted, but that's not going to buy you anything with the base, if you just let Antifa/BLM run amok.

They likely focus on leftist extremists, the BLM and anything like the Occupy-movement, but going after some neonazi clowns also is easy. Because that what the FBI and DHS do, the go after all sides. Anti-gun extremists and gun extremists. Pro- and anti-abortionists. Has been so after Dubya and Obama and likely will be so with Trump, as he surely isn't going to change the coarse of the boat (as we have seen).

Who is Sessions supposed to be buying credit with, liberals and cucks?

No actual liberal will like Sessions ever. Sessions is playing for his own conservative base.

[Smitty-48]

True conservatives like law & order and things to be peaceful and that honest people can live their life.

The GOP are not conservatives anymore, if they ever were, they're just the angry white people party, they want law and order, so long as it is liberals and black people getting their commupance, about other angry white people, they are libertarian.

Republicans support a Republican president. The approval rating has usually been in the 90% - 80% range. That's how easy it is. Trumps support among Republicans is what, 79%? Because he hasn't got any legislation through and not much to show (other than there hasn't been stock market crash and thus the economy is humming along). The neonazis are a tiny fraction there.

Nobody cares about the Neonazis except liberals and cucks, doesn't move the needle either way with the GOP base, although I would guess that a lot of them sympathize with the Neo-Confederates, even if not the Neo Nazis.

Sessions is playing for his own conservative base.

Which is huge, I'm sure. <sarcasm>