Smitty-48
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by Smitty-48 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:56 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:17 am
As difficult as that is to believe, it does raise the scenario that Ukraine actually wins this. Hard to imagine Putins next move if his army is a paper tiger.
I don't think the Russian army is the problem
the Russians haven't even deployed that many troops into Ukraine yet
it just seems like maybe the Russians are unsure of themselves suddenly at the strategic level
they are holding back their main force, hesitant to commit it to the fight
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by The Conservative » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:06 am
SilverEagle wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:44 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:17 am
As difficult as that is to believe, it does raise the scenario that Ukraine actually wins this. Hard to imagine Putins next move if his army is a paper tiger.
Well I just heard that Putin has put his nuke forces on high alert. He’s resorted to swinging his radioactive dick and it’s only been a couple of days. Fun times.
If he does that, that's the end of Russia period.
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Smitty-48
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by Smitty-48 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:08 am
the Russian war protestors sure are brave
it's an inspiration when it comes to standing up to our tyrants here in Canada
I think they are what is giving Putin the most pause
it's not the military situation in Ukraine
it's the impressive levels of dissent in Russia, considering the consequences these people will suffer
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by Smitty-48 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:32 am
Russian troops have entered Kharkiv now
reportedly they blew up a gas pipeline into the city to cut it of from fuel
VIDEO
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by Smitty-48 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:35 am
bear in mind that Russian doctrine is not to advance on a broad front
the Russians work deliberately and methodically
so they will build up their forces on specific axes of advance until they have overwhelming superiority
they are focused on the two main cities right now, Kiev & Kharkiv
but I don't think you can judge the results either way after only four days
this could go on for weeks, just to take these two cities, or fail to do so
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by DrYouth » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:54 am
The morale factor is going to be important.... in the military and in the population in general.
And certainly this is early days... in what promises to be a long and ugly struggle... but if it is, in fact, weak already... that bodes poorly.
He doesn't have forever to prove to his army and his people that this is worth the fight.
The possibility of military non-compliance and ultimately regime change is lurking in the background.
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by Smitty-48 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:00 am
the Ukrainians have captured a couple of significant prisoners
significant because of the unit they were captured from
423rd Guards "Yampol" Motor Rifle Regiment
that is 4th Guards "Kantemirovskaya" Tank Division from Moscow
and that is 1st Guards Tank Army
so that is a sign of Putin having to commit his main force to bolster the fight for the cities
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by C-Mag » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:02 am
DrYouth wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:54 am
He doesn't have forever to prove to his army and his people that this is worth the fight.
The Nazis needed 12 weeks to take Ukraine....................... for whatever that's worth
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by Smitty-48 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:05 am
C-Mag wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:02 am
DrYouth wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:54 am
He doesn't have forever to prove to his army and his people that this is worth the fight.
The Nazis needed 12 weeks to take Ukraine....................... for whatever that's worth
here's how that was done
Ukraine was much less urban at the time though
the Germans didn't have all these big industrial cities to take at the time
VIDEO
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by C-Mag » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:10 am
Zelensky has fled Kiev for Lvov, Russian State Duma speaker says
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1253257.shtml
Lot's of disinformation going on, believe what you want.
The Fuck Off Soldiers that died on Snake Island were filmed surrendering to Russians.
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