Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

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Post by ssu » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:55 am

Montegriffo wrote:Do you think this is why Trump did not follow up on his promise to prosecute Hillary? Has he been advised that she does more damage to the Dems by remaining in politics rather than rotting in jail?
Nope.

This was just one thing that Trump got his audience to light up and get excited, for him to be "outrageous" against the establishment. Which his supporters just loved. It's a good way to just simply dominate the discourse. With Trump you have to learn what things are those he truly wants to do and what are just "part of the rhetoric".

The classic confession from Trump about Drain-the-swamp chant, which Trump himself found at first hokey: "Then I started to say it like I meant it..."


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Post by kybkh » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:32 am

Russia gonna bail out Trump like they did Obama?

LAVROV: MOSCOW WORRIED ABOUT WASHINGTON'S REMARKS ON PREEMPTIVE STRIKE ON NORTH KOREA, RUSSIA DOING ITS BEST TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING

RUSSIA DOESN’T ACCEPT A NUCLEAR-ARMED NORTH KOREA: LAVROV
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Post by Zlaxer » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:35 am

kybkh wrote:Russia gonna bail out Trump like they did Obama?

LAVROV: MOSCOW WORRIED ABOUT WASHINGTON'S REMARKS ON PREEMPTIVE STRIKE ON NORTH KOREA, RUSSIA DOING ITS BEST TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING

RUSSIA DOESN’T ACCEPT A NUCLEAR-ARMED NORTH KOREA: LAVROV
I don't get it - unless Russia wants to help the Donald.....Wouldn't US DRPK conflict be good for the Ruskies? They get to analize US tactics up close, the DPRK issue gets resolved.....and the Russians don't have to spend any $$$.....

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Post by kybkh » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:15 am

Lavrov: "There Is A Russian-Chinese Plan To Defuse Korea Crisis"
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Post by ssu » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:51 am

kybkh wrote:Lavrov: "There Is A Russian-Chinese Plan To Defuse Korea Crisis"
Well, that can be the likely way out of this.

In the end, Putin wins.

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As usual.

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Post by kybkh » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:01 am

ssu wrote:
kybkh wrote:Lavrov: "There Is A Russian-Chinese Plan To Defuse Korea Crisis"
Well, that can be the likely way out of this.

In the end, Putin wins.

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As usual.
Sure would be nice to be on the winning team. Too bad Liberals control our government.

Maybe Trump can get a participation Trophy for playing the heel.
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Post by ssu » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:14 am

kybkh wrote: Sure would be nice to be on the winning team. Too bad Liberals control our government.

Maybe Trump can get a participation Trophy for playing the heel.
Sorry, kybkh, but that sounds really pathetic.

So you got your President, you have the Presidents party having majorities in both houses and then you whine about liberals controlling your government.

What to say?

Sad.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:53 pm

Some forensic analysis on the data dump corroborates the hypothesis that the emails were actually dumped from an insider ( a leak):

https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/g ... -analysis/

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Post by kybkh » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:23 am

Hey, let's talk about Russia for a change.


Paul Manafort Teamed Up With Obama’s Lawyer to Help Putin Ally

Obama’s former White House counsel Greg Craig at the firm of Skadden Arps produced a report that whitewashed the pro-Putin government of Viktor Yanukovych for jailing Yanukovych’s anti-Kremlin predecessor.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-manaf ... putin-ally

How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-d ... le/2632538


Still no evidence.........

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/29/sti ... ed-russia/
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:21 pm

Latest episode of Voennaya Priemka, some nice insight on the current Russian operation in Syria, disposition of forces and general state of modernization of the VSRF;



Even if you don't parley any Rooskie, which, should be brushing up on that by the way, for Cold War 2.0, you can still see how professionalized and in fact westernized they have become, in an operational sense, as compared to the Soviets.

This ain't the Mr. Ivan who fought the Muj in Afghanistan, clearly, he's modelling his shit on the Pentagon naow. No more large formations of conscripts bumbling about, he's all about the force multipliers these days.

When you factor in that he really can't use his conscripts in any great numbers for expeditionary operations, Mr. Ivan is not that big in terms of mass, but by focusing on force multipliers rather than mass, SOF enabled Air Land Battle, he's actually far more efficient.

No longer a Red Army horde, he's become like a mirror image of NATO/NNMA. Not as reliant on PGM's, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, since NATO/NNMA is rather over reliant on them.

Operationally, he's kind of like a hybrid, a fusion of NATO and the IDF, cherry picking from American, Western European and Israeli doctrine and TTP's. Where he can go big, strategic platforms, he's Americanized, operational level he's more limited, like the Europeans, roughly on par with the British and French, at the tactical level he rolls like the Isrealis, TTP's are very IDF like.

To prepare to fight Mr. Ivan in the contemporary paradigm, should ditch the whole Soviet Red Army adversarial model and rather think about how you would fight the British, French, and Israelis, backed up by an American strategic deterent, to wit, if NATO/NNMA had to fight themselves, how would they do it?

There is no Orange Force anymore, Orange Force went Blue, so Cold War 2.0 is inherently Blue v. Blue, which is a whole 'nother ballgame. Because Blue Force was always the more clever, Orange Force was a blunt instrument, but dogmatic and unwieldy, Blue Force always had the upper hand, but they never thought they would ever have to fight themselves.
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