Speaking of trashing the recently deceased ...

[DBTrek]

I get it. You want to call something terrible, even if its primary function can have positive results, so it becomes 'inadvertent,' somehow.

See holocaust/David Berkowitz retort. Try again.

Or pick a less indefensible hill to die on.
Up to you, really.
/shrug

[DBTrek]

An 'effective union' is made up of people advocating for themselves, not a 'protective mother.' Working with others in your field to protect your interests because you don't have the leverage to do it on your own doesn't undermine personal responsibility.

Fascinating. What kind of workers need to band together to avoid being fired again? The most productive workers exercising the best judgement? Are those the guys unions are built to "protect"?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I get it. You want to call something terrible, even if its primary function can have positive results, so it becomes 'inadvertent,' somehow.

See holocaust/David Berkowitz retort. Try again.

Or pick a less indefensible hill to die on.
Up to you, really.
/shrug

The holocaust's primary function was eliminating serial killers? News to me.

[DBTrek]

The holocaust's primary function was eliminating serial killers? News to me.

I'm just going to let your reading comprehension speak for itself, man.
If you think that was a clever response, I encourage you to revel in it.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

An 'effective union' is made up of people advocating for themselves, not a 'protective mother.' Working with others in your field to protect your interests because you don't have the leverage to do it on your own doesn't undermine personal responsibility.

Fascinating. What kind of workers need to band together to avoid being fired again? The most productive workers exercising the best judgement? Are those the guys unions are built to "protect"?

Good workers keep their damn mouths shut, and their beaks out of the bosses business.

Only malcontents would dream of protecting their interests.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

The holocaust's primary function was eliminating serial killers? News to me.

I'm just going to let your reading comprehension speak for itself, man.
If you think that was a clever response, I encourage you to revel in it.

It wan't particularly clever.

Your muddled holocaust non sequitur doesn't require arch cleverness to dismantle.

[DBTrek]

Good workers keep their damn mouths shut, and their beaks out of the bosses business.

Only malcontents would dream of protecting their interests.

Ah, so you imply the purpose of unions is to protect mouthy malcontents and meddlers. Well, sounds like a resounding "No" to my question on whether we actually need these organizations. I knew you'd get there eventually.

Your muddled holocaust non sequitur doesn't require arch cleverness to dismantle.

You should thank the God of Low Bars for Success for that - but you still haven't been able to navigate around it. Maybe make more offerings at his temple.

[C-Mag]

Ya Know , this Randa Barra was likely not vetted prior to hiring. All they saw in the HR dept were a bunch of boxes to check.
- Female
- Muslim
- International experience
- Plus body size

I guarantee you this is her personality. She's a nasty woman, that's hateful and intolerant. But that did not factor into the hiring. Just the boxes she could check for the University.

[Speaker to Animals]

I would submit to you that she is exactly what the university wants. They knew what they were hiring from the start. It's what they were looking for.

We have reached the point where it might be better for a family to educate their children, and for those children to self-educate as adults, especially the young men. Instead of seeking out corporate careers, they should try to stake out lives in an alternative economy or start their own small businesses.

You will not really learn that much in a university any longer. If you want to do something that requires graduate school, then sure. But if you just want to ge a bachelor's degree to get a job in the corporate world: don't.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Good workers keep their damn mouths shut, and their beaks out of the bosses business.

Only malcontents would dream of protecting their interests.

Ah, so you imply the purpose of unions is to protect mouthy malcontents and meddlers. Well, sounds like a resounding "No" to my question on whether we actually need these organizations. I knew you'd get there eventually.

Who is this 'we,' and why do 'we' get to determine what organizations other people get to have to protect their mouthy, meddlesome ways?

Your muddled holocaust non sequitur doesn't require arch cleverness to dismantle.

You should thank the God of Low Bars for Success for that - but you still haven't been able to navigate around it. Maybe make more offerings at his temple.

Navigate around what? Your argument that an unintended consequence of the holocaust stopping a few Jewish serial killers is the same as the intended goal of unions protecting workers from being fired without cause?

I don't need to waste my sacrifices on that one. Sort of defeats itself.